There are 1.5 billion Islams in the world. At least 10 to 15 percent of them would obey their leaders and join a jihad agst the USA.
When we strike Osama, no matter how much evidence we have on Osama, and no matter whether there are collateral casualties, it will just incite all the other Islamics or whatever they're called. The nations like Afghanistan will attempt to exact more terror.
And within our country, it is downright frightening to think of how many "sleepers" they have here. They have been planting them here for a number of years. This, according to mideast experts.
When it comes to states who support or harbor terrorists, the ONLY way we are going to stop them is to reign so much destruction on them that they have to stop---because they either choose to live or because they are dead. If we do this, other nations will condemn us and have a hissy, and here in the USA on campuses and in Hollywood we'll face opposition that will fill the cable channels every bit as much as the attack has since Sept 11.
As for terrorists among us, political correctness will allow them to destroy us. We are going to have to look at immigrants here, and look hard. Unfair? Yes. But the choice is this or death and the end of our nation. This will not be acceptable to the "we are the world" crowd, who are more concerned that someone will have their feelings hurt than that terrorists have the opportunity to kill more people.
I am afraid it's more serious than we think---NOT because we CAN'T overcome it, but because we do not have the WILL to overcome it because it would require us to do grossly politically incorrect things. That program last night profoundly gives insight into the state of mind of the latte states and the Gore voters.
We need to understand that the plan is a 100 year plan. Here in the states we have trouble planning beyond the weekend these radicals are planning at an enourmous level and we need to switch our thinking not for ourselves but future generations.
The longer their plan is executed the harder it will be to stop. A complete and total solution needs to exercised with EXTREME PREJUDICE against the United States of Islam. This concept can never become reality!
Our country needs to be completely united in this cause and should be the hallmark of every citizen each day!
In addition I totally agree about PC...it has to stop as well as politics. It is a new era!
The enemy lies in wait.
I love Ann Coulter, but it's not realistic to think you can go in and convert all these folks to Christianity at the point of a gun.
A more likely technique is divide and conquer. The better-educated Muslims may want to consider themselves too enlightened to resort to violence. The minority Shiite Muslims don't get on very well with the Sunni Muslims. Muslims in Indonesia are said to practice a somewhat different religion from their brothers in the Mideast.
Apart from fighting a war on several fronts against the violent Muslims, we need to mount a huge propaganda effort to convince the others that the true version of Islam is peaceful, and doesn't go around murdering innocent people. I don't know if that's true or not (given that Mohammed himself wielded a sword). But for every Muslim cleric who proclaims the Jihad, we have to get some other cleric to preach the opposite way. Otherwise, we're all in big trouble, fighting against nearly a third of the inhabitants of earth.
Even if we win, it would be no fun wiping out hundreds of millions of people to do it.
Prove it.
I posted a thread yesterday that links to a great article discussing how the CIA was _surprised_ when the "Islamic Revolution" won in Iran. The CIA planners who plot the politics of the world had considered religion a dead issue (domestically, and overseas). US policy in the Middle East was centered on Israel and Lebanon, but the Islamic Revolution changed everything. p>
The article (linked to here: The Coming War in the Middle East -- I posted the prologue, but the link on the thread takes you to the 51 page article) explains how the Islamic Revolution got out of control, and how the Oil Elites are attempting to "co-opt" the revolution itself by changing the US policy toward Israel. It's great stuff. Very detailed, very political, and seemingly right on the money... Mark W.
Do not fear. If America has the good sense to do as you suggest -- and I hope to God we do -- such traitors can be arrested and hanged for aiding and abetting the enemy; i.e., for treason. An all out war against the enemy without will enable us to rid ourselves of the enemy within, for once and for all.
http://free.freespeech.org/rationalthinking/
A thorough study of Quran and Hadiths reveal an Islam that is not being presented honestly by the Muslim propagandists and is not known to the majority of Muslims. Islam as it is taught in Quran (Koran) and lived by Muhammad, as is reported in the Hadith (Biography and sayings of the Prophet) is a religion of intolerance, inequality, violence, discrimination, superstition, fanaticism, and blind faith. Islam advocates killing the non-Muslims, abuses the human rights of the minorities and women. Islam expanded by Jihad (holy war) and forced its way by killing the non-believers and the dissidents. Apostasy in Islam is the biggest crime, punishable by death. Muhammad was a fundamentalist himself therefore fundamentalism cannot be separated from true Islam. Islam, which means submission, demands from its followers to submit their wills and thoughts to Muhammad and his Allah, a deity that despises reason, democracy, freedom of thought and freedom of expression. I reject Islam a) because of Muhammad’s lack of moral and ethical fortitude and b) because of the absurdities in Quran.
Muhammad lived a less than holy life. His lust for sex, his affairs with his maids and slave girls, his pedophilic relationship with Aisha a 9-year-old child, his killing sprees, his massacre and the genocide of the Jews, his slave making and trading, his assassination of his opponents, his raids and lootings of the merchant caravans, his burning of the palm plantations, his destroying the water wells, his cursing and invoking evil on his enemies and his revenge on his captured prisoners of war disqualify him as a decent human being let alone the messenger of God b) An unbiased study of Quran shows that far from being a “miracle” that book is a hoax. Once Quran is scrutinized with rational thinking, almost every sentence proves to be false. Quran is replete with scientific heresies, historic blunders, mathematical mistakes, logical absurdities and grammatical errors. Could possibly the author of this Universe be as ignorant as it appears to be in Quran?
Quran tells Muslims to kill the disbelievers wherever they find them (Q. 2:191), to murder them and treat them harshly (Q. 9:123), slay them (Q. 9: 5), fight with them, (Q. 8: 65 ) even if they are Christians and Jews, humiliate them and impose on them a penalty tax (Q. 9: 29). Quran takes away the freedom of belief from all humanity and tell clearly that no other religion except Islam is accepted (Q. 3: 85). It relegates those who disbelieve in Quran to hell (Q. 5: 11), calls them najis (filthy, untouchable, impure) (Q. 9: 28). It orders its followers to fight the unbelievers until no other religion except Islam is left (Q. 2: 193). It says that the non-believers will go to hell and will drink boiling water (Q. 14: 17). It asks the Muslims to slay or crucify or cut the hands and feet of the unbelievers, that they be expelled from the land with disgrace and that “they shall have a great punishment in world hereafter” (Q.5: 34). “As for the disbelievers”, it says that “for them garments of fire shall be cut and there shall be poured over their heads boiling water whereby whatever is in their bowls and skin shall be dissolved and they will be punished with hooked iron rods” (Q. 22: 9). Quran prohibits a Muslim to befriend a non-believer even if that non-believer is the father or the brother of that Muslim (Q. 9: 23), (Q. 3: 28). Quran asks the Muslims to “strive against the unbelievers with great endeavor (Q. 25: 52), be stern with them because they belong to hell (Q. 66: 9). The holy Prophet demanded his follower to “strike off the heads of the disbelievers”; then after making a “wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives” (Q. 47: 4). As for women the book of Allah says that they are inferior to men and their husbands have the right to scourge them if they are found disobedient (Q. 4:34). It teaches that women will go to hell if they are disobedient to their husbands (Q. 66:10). It maintains that men have an advantage over the women (Q. 2:228). It not only denies the women's equal right to their inheritance (Q. 4:11-12), it also regards them as imbeciles and decrees that their witness is not admissible in the court (Q. 2:282). This means that a woman who is raped cannot accuse her rapist unless she can produce a male witness. Muhammad allowed the Muslims to marry up to four views and gave them license to sleep with their slave maids and as many “captive” women as they may have (Q. 4:3). He himself did just that. This is why anytime a Muslim army subdues another nation, they call them kafir and allow themselves to rape their women. Pakistani soldiers raped up to 250,000 Bangali women in 1971 after they massacred 3,000,000 unarmed civilians when their religious leader decreed that Bangladeshis are unislamic. This is why the prison guards in Islamic regime of Iran rape the women and then kill them after calling them apostates and the enemies of Allah.
This site scrutinizes Islam with Rational Thinking. It rejects time-honored beliefs that cannot stand the probing of reason. It asks questions and encourages independent thinking. It promotes unity of humankind, equality between men and women, abolition of prejudices and freedom from dogmatism and blind faith. In a world that has become so technologically advanced that even the poorest nations that cannot feed themselves boast having sophisticated nuclear and biological weapons, small misunderstandings can cause catastrophic results. Religion has always been the biggest source of misunderstanding. For religion, people are ready to die, kill and destroy everything else. Only a religious person would believe that he would go to paradise if he kills other human beings. Only a religious person has no regards for the lives he destroys because their faith is not right. In the past century Islamic fundamentalism has been on the rise, and with that terrorisms, revolutions, and upheavals ensued. Millions of lives were lost and still counting. Let us pause for a moment and take a second look at Islam. We may just have made a mistake.
The reason I think Islam is harmful and must go is not due to the fact that Quran says Earth is flat or the stars are missiles that Allah fires at the jinns who climb the heaven to eavesdrop the conversation of the exalted assembly. These tales could even amuse us. Islam must go because it teaches hate, it orders killing the non-Muslims, it denigrates women and it violates the human rights. Islam must go not because it is false but because it is destructive, because it is a danger; a threat to peace and security of humankind. With the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction in Islamic countries, Islam has become a serious and a real threat to the survival of our species.
Ali Sina
October 2000
I watched on c-span...a Senator like he saw a ghost--say his committee was going to make a grave decision on the size of classes for shcoolchildren--teachers...also this prescription medication for elderly and reparations-race rhetoric garbage. If GM had to make cars the way the govt. supposed to protect us--production-safety would be cut in half--two thirds and prices would quadruple and blue(dnz) cars would be bumping all the red cars---running them off of the road---blowing them up---car bombing---while GM will be discussing parking lot assignments--etiquette...bs!
No its terrorists who are following a specific plan of action guided by an extreme ideology.
Tony
During the Q&A, I asked him, since it was a big deal at the time, what did he think of Salman Rushdie.
"I would have to kill him if I saw him," he said.
This was from a 17-year old kid, in a public high school classroom, and I don't know what was scarier: the fact that he said it with such nonchalance or that the teacher didn't even so much as bat an eyelash.