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When the Bushman used the phrase Homeland Defense ( or Security ), my radar screamed!!!! I had to stop a moment & catch my breath. He was his father's son, after all-Bush #I put more reg's in place than anyone else & now the ultimate may be at hand. Then, reading through all of this, I really became alarmed. We may be in for pure H--- in this country. Nothing has ever soo freightened me-nothing! This thread runs to 30+ pages-just the thread. Read the web site www.homelandsecurity.org & know what is going on.