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Bush snub no oversight
Toronto Sun ^ | Friday, September 21, 2001 | Bob MacDonald

Posted on 09/21/2001 9:28:46 AM PDT by Grig

U.S. President George W. Bush's non-mention of Canada in his historic speech last night may have been much more than a thoughtless oversight.

It just might have been deliberate -- a highly noticeable-to- Canadians way of indicating he is not getting the kind of all-out cooperation from Prime Minister Jean Chretien that he feels the present crisis demands.

For starters, Chretien has been dithering about including Canadian fighting soldiers in a U.S.-led force to go after international terrorists. And U.S. Ambassador Paul Cellucci got a kind of brush-off Wednesday by Immigration Elinor Caplan when he urged the U.S. and Canada work out a common system of handling visitors, immigrants, refugees or terrorists at our border. Caplan mumbled something about Canadian "sovereignty" possibly being threatened.

Perhaps Bush was trying to send a wake-up jolt to Chretien, despite Canada's contributions of help after last week's disaster and the loss of Canadian lives. His message: We are in a tough, real war against international terrorism and we want you to be with us 100%.

For instance, in contrast to Chretien, Canada's far-off sister Commonwealth nation, Australia, has promised full military support, including fighting troops to back the U.S.-led forces.

"There is no point in a situation like this, being an 80% ally," declared Australian Prime Minister John Howard.

He contended that an all-out effort had to be made at this time or people in free and democratic societies such as Australia (and Canada) will be forced to live in an increasingly fearful and threatened world.

Now, that's the kind of determined attitude Bush was talking about last night when he declared: "Every nation in every region now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."

Bush made it very clear that the enemy in this war will be terrorists like Muslim terrorist Osman bin Laden and his global network of mass murderers.

"The enemy of America is not our many Muslim friends; it is not our many Arab friends. Our enemy is a radical network of terrorists and every government that supports them," said the president.

"We will direct every resource at our command -- every means of diplomacy, every tool of intelligence, every instrument of law enforcement, every financial influence and every necessary weapon of war -- to the disruption and defeat of the global terror network."

And that's the only way it will be accomplished.

However, Chretien keeps hanging back in making a commitment of fighting troops to the cause despite a national opinion poll this week that showed 79% of Canadians want a full military effort to disable the armies of countries that give safe haven to such terrorists. And 77% said Canada does a poor job of preventing terrorists from operating here.

However, Chretien may be afraid of offending the leftist, anti-American voters that have voted for him or the increasing number of Muslim voters.

If so, maybe that's why the federal government has been so zealous in not releasing the names of the estimated up to 60 Canadians killed in the attacks. And why Chretien didn't go to New York to view the disaster area -- or to Washington to see Bush as such leaders as British PM Tony Blair.

The foreign affairs department says their identities are "private" and media inquiries are referred to the U.S. government. So far, the names of only 11 of the Canadian victims have been filtered out by the media.

You get the feeling that the Chretienites don't want them known because media coverage about so many individuals and their suffering families might infuriate their fellow Canadians -- and increase demands for full military support.

And, on another front, Chretien is looking worse daily -- especially when he made the nutsy statement that there were no terrorists in Canada. That flew in the face of his own Canadian Security Intelligence Service that reported 50 terrorist groups and 350 individuals existed in Canada.

Now we have the report yesterday by Sun reporter Tom Godfrey that revealed a Middle Eastern man by the name of Nabil Al-Marabh lived in Toronto until six weeks ago and is believed to be the same man that the FBI agents arrested in Chicago in connection with last week's attacks. Unfortunately, Canada's longstanding reputation as "sucker nation of the world" in running a sieve-like immigration and refugee system is still intact.

But the heat is on to get with it 100% in going after bin Laden. And also in toughening our weak immigration system.

The blood of the 6,333 killed in the American attacks demands it. So does the blood of those nameless, anonymous Canadians.


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To: Grig
We are planning a FReep of our Prime Minister on Parliament Hill very shortly. Conservative Canadians are disgusted by Da Moron's lack of support for the US in this situation!
61 posted on 09/21/2001 12:52:03 PM PDT by conniew (connie@freedominion.ca)
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To: BaBaStooey
Gosh, its nice to see that there are still anti-francophones in Canada ...

That would be francophobes, Stooley... er Stooey

62 posted on 09/21/2001 12:52:11 PM PDT by Publius6961
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To: Camerican
Canada has nothing to be ashamed of (expect your current leader but heck, we've had the same here). Canadians were chewed up horribly in both WWI and WWII. I've read just a few accounts, I am sure you can fill us in on what your countrymen did. We know you are with us.
63 posted on 09/21/2001 12:53:41 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: Grig
What a disgrace not to release the names of the Canadians who were killed.

Is that what happens when a plane crashes?

64 posted on 09/21/2001 12:55:48 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: Lazmataz
The Canadians are at it again!
65 posted on 09/21/2001 1:22:50 PM PDT by Brett66
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To: TonyInOhio
You're right, a lot of us feel like Grig does.

Chretien didn't even bother to call the House back in session, guess he was busy golfing.

Whatever was done, he was shamed into by the public.

66 posted on 09/21/2001 1:27:23 PM PDT by Great Dane
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
The Brits still have a Navy. Canada doesn't. That doesn't mean the US and Canada are no longer best friends.

LOL, Not excactly true, we did borrow a row boat from the Museum duing the Gulf war.

67 posted on 09/21/2001 1:31:45 PM PDT by Great Dane
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To: DEADROCK
A lot of Canadians are pissed off about the 'snub.' The majority of Canadians are anti-America. For 30-40 years(at least since commie Trudeau) the governemnt/elites/eduction system had brainwashed Canadians that the USSR is greater place than USA. As a pro-USA man for many, many years, all I can say to the Canadians with the hurt feelings is...#$@^ YOU!

Oh, I guess that expains why 100,000 of us showed up on Parlement Hill with only 24hrs notice as a show of support for you guys. That's more than the amount of people who show up for Canada Day. Outside of our government you will have a hard time finding a Canadian that fits your description, but it you keep acting like a jerk you might convince one or two to feel like that.

68 posted on 09/21/2001 1:36:27 PM PDT by Grig
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To: conniew
Keep me informed of any freeps on the Hill please, I work only a couple of blocks away.
69 posted on 09/21/2001 1:38:12 PM PDT by Grig
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To: 6ppc
France wouldn't help our diplomats in Tehran, but Canada did. I won't ever forget.
70 posted on 09/21/2001 1:39:58 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Gladwin
Canada should tighten up their visa policies, but I am sure they won't. The US will have to tighten its' border with Canada. I hope the Canadians also increase security at airports so that attacks can't be staged from that country.

Fully agree with you, but so should the US, a lot of these terrorists have lived in the US for years, a number of them even have US citizenship.

Some were under suspicion by the feds for years, but nothing was done.

Both countries need much better background checks on would be refugees and immigrants, but we are too busy being politically correct.

71 posted on 09/21/2001 1:42:31 PM PDT by Great Dane
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To: Grig
The was more like Lady Di syndrome. One event of graciousness will not rectify many years of anti-Americanism. Because you are blind does not me a jerk.
72 posted on 09/21/2001 1:43:21 PM PDT by deadrock
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To: Grig
"Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."

-- President George W. Bush

Sept. 20, 2001

CANADA stands with US...
73 posted on 09/21/2001 1:46:17 PM PDT by bluetoad
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To: thinking
.don't expect overt support from up north!

Well, you're getting it wholeheartedly from the population.

74 posted on 09/21/2001 1:47:23 PM PDT by Great Dane
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To: Grig
I was born and raised and still live in Canada and a day does not go by without some snotty nose Canadian slagging the US. I am the only in my large family that is pro-US. The Sunday dinners of late have been bitter. I am one of a handful who are pro-US at office. I don't talk to them about it any more I'm sick of arguing with morons.
75 posted on 09/21/2001 1:48:31 PM PDT by deadrock
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To: Grig
You need to collar your P.M. and tell him to get off of his butt.
76 posted on 09/21/2001 1:51:10 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: Great Dane
I do have a message from Mrs. Publius6961:

As a card-carrying Canuck expatriate (born in Hamilton and lived most of my life in Windsor)
Cretin should get off his ass and join the active military coalition.
I am embarrased and saddened to be Canadian, and that hasn't happened often.

77 posted on 09/21/2001 1:51:19 PM PDT by Publius6961
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To: jdwales
>>>The Canadien people are a fine group and good friends it's not there fault there Gov't is turning to socialism<<<

I believe, if you'd check, Canada is a democracy with perodic elections for Prime Minister and Parliment. Like us, they get what they voter for!!

78 posted on 09/21/2001 1:52:07 PM PDT by HardStarboard
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To: Camerican
#37......... well said, and funny too.
79 posted on 09/21/2001 1:52:07 PM PDT by Great Dane
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To: maica
bttt
80 posted on 09/21/2001 1:55:20 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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