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Bush snub no oversight
Toronto Sun ^ | Friday, September 21, 2001 | Bob MacDonald

Posted on 09/21/2001 9:28:46 AM PDT by Grig

U.S. President George W. Bush's non-mention of Canada in his historic speech last night may have been much more than a thoughtless oversight.

It just might have been deliberate -- a highly noticeable-to- Canadians way of indicating he is not getting the kind of all-out cooperation from Prime Minister Jean Chretien that he feels the present crisis demands.

For starters, Chretien has been dithering about including Canadian fighting soldiers in a U.S.-led force to go after international terrorists. And U.S. Ambassador Paul Cellucci got a kind of brush-off Wednesday by Immigration Elinor Caplan when he urged the U.S. and Canada work out a common system of handling visitors, immigrants, refugees or terrorists at our border. Caplan mumbled something about Canadian "sovereignty" possibly being threatened.

Perhaps Bush was trying to send a wake-up jolt to Chretien, despite Canada's contributions of help after last week's disaster and the loss of Canadian lives. His message: We are in a tough, real war against international terrorism and we want you to be with us 100%.

For instance, in contrast to Chretien, Canada's far-off sister Commonwealth nation, Australia, has promised full military support, including fighting troops to back the U.S.-led forces.

"There is no point in a situation like this, being an 80% ally," declared Australian Prime Minister John Howard.

He contended that an all-out effort had to be made at this time or people in free and democratic societies such as Australia (and Canada) will be forced to live in an increasingly fearful and threatened world.

Now, that's the kind of determined attitude Bush was talking about last night when he declared: "Every nation in every region now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."

Bush made it very clear that the enemy in this war will be terrorists like Muslim terrorist Osman bin Laden and his global network of mass murderers.

"The enemy of America is not our many Muslim friends; it is not our many Arab friends. Our enemy is a radical network of terrorists and every government that supports them," said the president.

"We will direct every resource at our command -- every means of diplomacy, every tool of intelligence, every instrument of law enforcement, every financial influence and every necessary weapon of war -- to the disruption and defeat of the global terror network."

And that's the only way it will be accomplished.

However, Chretien keeps hanging back in making a commitment of fighting troops to the cause despite a national opinion poll this week that showed 79% of Canadians want a full military effort to disable the armies of countries that give safe haven to such terrorists. And 77% said Canada does a poor job of preventing terrorists from operating here.

However, Chretien may be afraid of offending the leftist, anti-American voters that have voted for him or the increasing number of Muslim voters.

If so, maybe that's why the federal government has been so zealous in not releasing the names of the estimated up to 60 Canadians killed in the attacks. And why Chretien didn't go to New York to view the disaster area -- or to Washington to see Bush as such leaders as British PM Tony Blair.

The foreign affairs department says their identities are "private" and media inquiries are referred to the U.S. government. So far, the names of only 11 of the Canadian victims have been filtered out by the media.

You get the feeling that the Chretienites don't want them known because media coverage about so many individuals and their suffering families might infuriate their fellow Canadians -- and increase demands for full military support.

And, on another front, Chretien is looking worse daily -- especially when he made the nutsy statement that there were no terrorists in Canada. That flew in the face of his own Canadian Security Intelligence Service that reported 50 terrorist groups and 350 individuals existed in Canada.

Now we have the report yesterday by Sun reporter Tom Godfrey that revealed a Middle Eastern man by the name of Nabil Al-Marabh lived in Toronto until six weeks ago and is believed to be the same man that the FBI agents arrested in Chicago in connection with last week's attacks. Unfortunately, Canada's longstanding reputation as "sucker nation of the world" in running a sieve-like immigration and refugee system is still intact.

But the heat is on to get with it 100% in going after bin Laden. And also in toughening our weak immigration system.

The blood of the 6,333 killed in the American attacks demands it. So does the blood of those nameless, anonymous Canadians.


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To: 6ppc
What's to say about France? We KNOW where they are going.
42 posted on 09/21/2001 10:52:07 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Grig
...Canada's longstanding reputation as "sucker nation of the world" in running a sieve-like immigration and refugee system...

The U.S. has not been to far behind in this regard, and that's a big reason why we're in this mess. The American people in poll after poll, year after year, have been in favor of much more restrictive (and, it turns out more sensible) immigration policies, but the media, business, and political elites have foisted mass immigration on both countries for decades anyway.

43 posted on 09/21/2001 10:57:45 AM PDT by uscit
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To: thinking
Gosh, its nice to see that there are still anti-francophones in Canada who want to practically like up Quebecois right next to the terrorists in front of the executioner. Quebec is more French than even France is today. The France of yesteryear bailed the USA out during the Revolutionary war and Quebec is a very conservative place. In fact, the Parti/Bloc Quebecois is the major opposition to the Liberals (Chreiten) in the province of Quebec.

Chretien is looking for the vote of the Liberal Party in Ontario (and part of Quebec) who support him. Toronto is where most of the immigrants live. To do otherwise would erode his multicultural base. If Canada were ruled by the Quebecois Chretien wouldn't be in office and French would be the only official language.

And, I'm not even Canadian. I'm from Michigan, and I was born in Michigan, however, these people are my ancestors and I feel a need to stand up for them.
44 posted on 09/21/2001 10:58:22 AM PDT by BaBaStooey
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To: TonyInOhio
The Tories? They have the fewest MP's of all 5 parites in the House.

Currently conservatives are split between essentialy 3 parties and none of them are ready to govern right now. I hope that they put aside their differences and unite as one party to create a real alternative to the Liberals. Before Sept 11th that didn't look too likely, perhaps now it is more possible.

45 posted on 09/21/2001 10:59:44 AM PDT by Grig
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To: Howlin
"What's to say about France? We KNOW where they are going."

Yeah, but ya know what, Howlin? I couldn't believe it my own self....:)....but Chirac's (sp?) recent visit damned near cured me of spouting my famous French jokes. Seriously. The guy was absolutely terrific. He toured NY and saw the devastation up close..............and he was stunned. His press conference was something to behold. There..........the President of France.........talking MIGHTY tough. He made it crystal clear, as did (another guy I used to bash a LOT) Tony Blair, that France is OUTRAGED at this attack, that they are 100% behind us.........and ALL the way, no matter what, no matter what it takes.

I was duly impressed.

Even "Le Monde" published a stunning piece in which they said ".......now, we are ALL New Yorkers; we are ALL Americans." They even said that they owe their freedom to the United States, and that it was time to stand up and be with us.

Now, you can count me "stunned".

God bless 'em, is all I can say. God bless 'em, indeed.

46 posted on 09/21/2001 11:00:15 AM PDT by RightOnline
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To: gaelwolf
There is no way the non-confidence vote would pass, the Liberals have a large majority, and they are so arrogant that I doubt a failed one would have any impact since most opposition MP's come from the west.

They will respond to the polls though, over time.

47 posted on 09/21/2001 11:02:46 AM PDT by Grig
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To: Grig
I think Massachusettes should annex Canada or vise versa....same damn mentallity.
48 posted on 09/21/2001 11:03:05 AM PDT by Hammerhead
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To: Straight Vermonter
Our equipment is sparse, old and in poor condition, but our soldiers are top-notch.
49 posted on 09/21/2001 11:06:39 AM PDT by Grig
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To: Camerican
I know what you are saying is true because I live on the Canadian border in WA state and most of the Canadians in BC love the US.
50 posted on 09/21/2001 11:07:33 AM PDT by Eva
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To: Grig
Including the women?
51 posted on 09/21/2001 11:53:48 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter
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To: Grig
Muslim terrorist Osman bin Laden

Related to Donnie & Marie?

52 posted on 09/21/2001 11:56:41 AM PDT by Dataman
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To: Grig
A lot of Canadians are pissed off about the 'snub.' The majority of Canadians are anti-America. For 30-40 years(at least since commie Trudeau) the governemnt/elites/eduction system had brainwashed Canadians that the USSR is greater place than USA. As a pro-USA man for many, many years, all I can say to the Canadians with the hurt feelings is...#$@^ YOU!

On another note. I cannot believe that the people of United States of America have not closed the northern borders. Every know terrorist org. has DEEP roots in Canada. Not a few, every group. All US citizens should be screaming from the top of the lungs on this problem. If this issue does not warrant a Freerepublic campaign nothing does. It cannot be over emphasised.

53 posted on 09/21/2001 12:08:01 PM PDT by deadrock
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To: TonyInOhio
"How long before the Tories come back to power?"

I hope never since they are bunch of liberals wackos. The last Torie bunch raised our taxes 279 times. No thanks. Tories and the Liberal party should merge. Two peas in pod.

54 posted on 09/21/2001 12:11:31 PM PDT by deadrock
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To: Rustynailww
That is a good question.
55 posted on 09/21/2001 12:13:13 PM PDT by deadrock
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To: Grig
Makes me feel ashamed to be part canadian (born to American father; Newfoundland mother) but then I was born in Newfoundland, too, so does that count?
56 posted on 09/21/2001 12:28:51 PM PDT by nfldgirl
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Flapdoodle ! The Brits still have a Navy. Canada doesn't. That doesn't mean the US and Canada are no longer best friends.

I suppose you also believe that "Moral Support" is meaningless?

57 posted on 09/21/2001 12:38:20 PM PDT by Publius6961
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To: uscit
The U.S. has not been to far behind in this regard, and that's a big reason why we're in this mess.

Multiculturalists and the PC Useful Idiots.

Americas's own Cell of the Qaeda, and fellow travelers of Osama Bin Laden.

Ignorance or no, these losers are every bit as guilty in the Mass Murder as the terrorists themselves.
They have painted a HUGE sign on America's forehead":

SUCKERS... COME AND GET US!

They consider themselves "sensitive Americans". They are the worst of our nation, and prosecutable, in my opinion.

58 posted on 09/21/2001 12:46:04 PM PDT by Publius6961
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To: DEADROCK
On another note. I cannot believe that the people of United States of America have not closed the northern borders. Every know terrorist org. has DEEP roots in Canada. Not a few, every group.

Dead on!
Read:

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3bab85365c26.htm

59 posted on 09/21/2001 12:49:09 PM PDT by Publius6961
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To: Tarheel
When was the last time so many Canadians were killed in an act of terror or war? WWII?

Remember, a significant portion of Eastern Canada today is comprised of former American draft-dodging cowards and their progeny. All that we really require of Canada at this time is that they continue making good beer.

60 posted on 09/21/2001 12:51:14 PM PDT by jpl
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