Posted on 09/19/2001 10:47:16 AM PDT by XBob
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.[47.1] (As for) those who disbelieve and turn away from Allah's way, He shall render their works ineffective.
[47.2] And (as for) those who believe and do good, and believe in what has been revealed to Muhammad, and it is the very truth from their Lord, He will remove their evil from them and improve their condition.
[47.3] That is because those who disbelieve follow falsehood, and have given them their dowries, taking (them) in marriage, not fornicating nor taking them for paramours in secret; and whoever denies faith, his work indeed is of no account, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers.
[47.4] So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners, and afterwards either set them free as a favor or let them ransom (themselves) until the war terminates. That (shall be so); and if Allah had pleased He would certainly have exacted what is due from them, but that He may try some of you by means of others; and (as for) those who are slain in the way of Allah, He will by no means allow their deeds to perish.
[47.5] He will guide them and improve their condition.
[47.6] And cause them to enter the garden which He has made known to them.
[47.7] O you who believe ! if you help (the cause of) Allah, He will help you and make firm your feet.
[47.8] And (as for) those who disbelieve, for them is destruction and He has made their deeds ineffective.
[47.9] That is because they hated what Allah revealed, so He rendered their deeds null.
[47.10] Have they not then journeyed in the land and seen how was the end of those before them: Allah brought down destruction upon them, and the unbelievers shall have the like of it.
[47.11] That is because Allah is the Protector of those who believe, and because the unbelievers shall have no protector for them.
[47.12] Surely Allah will make those who believe and do good enter gardens beneath which rivers flow; and those who disbelieve enjoy themselves and eat as the beasts eat, and the fire is their abode.
[47.13] And how many a town which was far more powerful than the town of yours which has driven you out: We destroyed them so there was no helper for them.
[47.14] What! is he who has a clear argument from his Lord like him to whom the evil of his work is made fairseeming: and they follow their low desires.
[47.15] A parable of the garden which those guarding (against evil) are promised: Therein are rivers of water that does not alter, and rivers of milk the taste whereof does not change, and rivers of drink delicious to those who drink, and rivers of honey clarified and for them therein are all fruits and protection from their Lord. (Are these) like those who abide in the fire and who are made to drink boiling water so it rends their bowels asunder.
[47.16] And there are those of them who seek to listen to you, until when they go forth from you, they say to those who have been given the knowledge: What was it that he said just now? These are they upon whose hearts Allah has set a seal and they follow their low desires.
[47.17] And (as for) those who follow the right direction, He increases them in guidance and gives them their guarding (against evil).
[47.18] Do they then wait for aught but the hour that it should come to them all of a sudden? Now indeed the tokens of it have (already) come, but how shall they have their reminder when it comes on them?
[47.19] So know that there is no god but Allah, and, ask protection for your fault and for the believing men and the believing women; and Allah knows the place of your returning and the place of your abiding.
[47.20] And those who believe say: Why has not a chapter been revealed? But when a decisive chapter is revealed, and fighting is mentioned therein you see those in whose hearts is a disease look to you with the look of one fainting because of death. Woe to them then!
[47.21] Obedience and a gentle word (was proper); but when the affair becomes settled, then if they remain true to Allah it would certainly be better for them.
[47.22] But if you held command, you were sure to make mischief in the land and cut off the ties of kinship!
[47.23] Those it is whom Allah has cursed so He has made them deaf and blinded their eyes.
[47.24] Do they not then reflect on the Quran? Nay, on the hearts there are locks.
[47.25] Surely (as for) those who return on their backs after that guidance has become manifest to them, the Shaitan has made it a light matter to them; and He gives them respite.
[47.26] That is because they say to those who hate what Allah has revealed: We will obey you in some of the affairs; and Allah knows their secrets.
[47.27] But how will it be when the angels cause them to die smiting their backs.
[47.28] That is because they follow what is displeasing to Allah and are averse to His pleasure, therefore He has made null their deeds.
[47.29] Or do those in whose hearts is a disease think that Allah will not bring forth their spite?
[47.30] And if We please We would have made you know them so that you would certainly have recognized them by their marks and most certainly you can recognize them by the intent of (their) speech; and Allah knows your deeds.
[47.31] And most certainly We will try you until We have known those among you who exert themselves hard, and the patient, and made your case manifest.
[47.32] Surely those who disbelieve and turn away from Allah's way and oppose the Apostle after that guidance has become clear to them cannot harm Allah in any way, and He will make null their deeds.
[47.33] O you who believe! obey Allah and obey the Apostle, and do not make your deeds of no effect.
[47.34] Surely those who disbelieve and turn away from Allah's way, then they die while they are unbelievers, Allah will by no means forgive them.
[47.35] And be not slack so as to cry for peace and you have the upper hand, and Allah is with you, and He will not bring your deeds to naught.
[47.36] The life of this world is only idle sport and play, and if you believe and guard (against evil) He will give you your rewards, and will not ask of you your possessions.
[47.37] If He should ask you for it and urge you, you will be niggardly, and He will bring forth your malice.
[47.38] Behold! you are those who are called upon to spend in Allah's way, but among you are those who are niggardly, and whoever is niggardly is niggardly against his own soul; and Allah is Self-sufficient and you have need (of Him), and if you turn back He will bring in your place another people, then they will not be like you.
It pretty much boils down to that. If you believe the answer is "yes," as I do, then you must consider that the lives of 10,000,000 to 30,000,000 of your countrymen at stake. In fact, they are in far more imminent danger than they ever were in WWII. Therefore, we must at least consider a response on the same order as our response to Hitler. "
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What happens the next time? Osama bin Laden probably already possesses several suitcase nukes
Mr chamberlain, you're no Churchill
Mr chamberlain, you're no Truman
Mr chamberlain, you're no Eisenhower
Mr chamberlain, you're no Reagan - "Mr. Gorbachov, tear down that wall."
Mr chamberlain, you're no Bush SR. (on Kuwait) - "This will not stand."
Mr chamberlain, you're no Bush Jr. "Stop terrorists or share their fate."
Mr chamberlain, you're donh !!!!!!! donh walking.
Have you started walking yet don?????
So you believe in rigged polls now. Where was that poll taken, among the Palestinians?
From my personal experience, and personal contacts, at least 90% of the moslems abohore this atrocity.
So you believe in rigged polls now. Where was that poll taken, among the Palestinians?
From my personal experience, and personal contacts, at least 90% of the moslems abohore this atrocity.
donH says - Gee - don't do anything, you might make them mad
This kind of rhetoric is also popular with pugnacious drunks in bars. We don't go to war to preserve our knightly honor, or show what men-who-don't-back-down we are. We go to war to achieve something tangible that we need for our survival. There is little to gain from demanding Ben Laden this instant, except by way of appeasing american sensibilities, we can get him later, far cheaper. It will not materially affect the terrorist solders already in place, and imagining that capturing Ben Laden and his lieutenants will magically cause terrorism to diminish due to the increased fearful respect other countries will then have for us has eaten too many lotus blossoms. Ben Laden will be replaced 10 minutes after he is arrested, and unless you are ready to draft every able-bodied american for guard duty, we are not going to be standing over Islam dictating what's in their sermons and radio shows.
I'm a pretty serious bloodthirsty war-monger, and think we should be at war continuously if we are to maintain an effective military. But I'd urge you to remember the tankman's prayer. "Please don't spend my life in battle to gain nothing."
These terrorists have made us look like total fools, in a move that could have been designed by experts to assure that we would stumble into war in Afganistan. Why do you assume we aren't going to be even bigger fools if we do?
How smart would it be to make sure world islam opinions toward america are greased by america stumbling around like an overgrown bully, inventing ever more doubtful, creative new international excuses for being an aggressor against one of the poorest and least organized countries in the world, before unleashing Anthrax on the general US population?
Does this clever plane attack on the World Trade Center bear the earmarks of fundamentalist religionists, or does it smell more like a layered, sophisticated psy-ops action? It astonishes me that more people don't feel played by this attack on Afganistan. You don't cure being had, by being had bigger.
donH says - Gee - don't do anything, you might make them mad
This kind of rhetoric is also popular with pugnacious drunks in bars. We don't go to war to preserve our knightly honor, or show what men-who-don't-back-down we are. We go to war to achieve something tangible that we need for our survival. There is little to gain from demanding Ben Laden this instant, except by way of appeasing american sensibilities, we can get him later, far cheaper. It will not materially affect the terrorist solders already in place, and imagining that capturing Ben Laden and his lieutenants will magically cause terrorism to diminish due to the increased fearful respect other countries will then have for us has eaten too many lotus blossoms. Ben Laden will be replaced 10 minutes after he is arrested, and unless you are ready to draft every able-bodied american for guard duty, we are not going to be standing over Islam dictating what's in their sermons and radio shows.
I'm a pretty serious bloodthirsty war-monger, and think we should be at war continuously if we are to maintain an effective military. But I'd urge you to remember the tankman's prayer. "Please don't spend my life in battle to gain nothing."
These terrorists have made us look like total fools, in a move that could have been designed by experts to assure that we would stumble into war in Afganistan. Why do you assume we aren't going to be even bigger fools if we do?
How smart would it be to make sure world islam opinions toward america are greased by america stumbling around like an overgrown bully, inventing ever more doubtful, creative new international excuses for being an aggressor against one of the poorest and least organized countries in the world, before unleashing Anthrax on the general US population? What a fine result from an attack that was supposed to pursuade the rest of the Islam world to refrain from supporting terrorism.
Does this clever plane attack on the World Trade Center bear the earmarks of fundamentalist religionists, or does it smell more like a layered, sophisticated psy-ops action? It astonishes me that more people don't feel played by this attack on Afganistan. You don't cure being had, by being had bigger. What we are about to do is thoughtless to the point of being insane, and does no honor to the memories of those recently lost in whose name this reprisal is being launched.
When are you walking to work????? Please get off your mouth and walk, like you are pleading. As it was such a terrible thing, you should not be using any gas from the mid-east, period.
I love the kalaidoscopic way your mind siddles up to a logical syllogism. I also objected to the killing of witches in the Middle Ages. Does that mean I am morally forbidden to read the Bible? If I object to the use of money to buy heroin, does that mean I can't use money?
I do not know if we will meet in the middle, but, we will meet.
"Measured" response, indeed. There's a reason we normally restrain ourselves from sending armies after individuals in foreign countries, and it's not just restraint out of courtesy. Before the first shot is fired, this is already destined to be a war on islam, and so much for the so fine distinction between the terrorists, and those upstanding moderate islamic governments that are on our side.
New experiments in the idea of war, like officially declaring war without declaring who the enemy is, is opening Pandora's box. From an international legal perspective, how is what we will now have to do different from what the terrorists do?
This is a bad idea into which far too little thought has gone, from stem to stern. Bush cannot leave this deployed army standing idle for very long, and he cannot dismantle it and bring it home. He is locked into providing the terrorists with what they need to justify mass attacks in the eyes of the islamic world, which is probably just what they intended when they crashed the planes.
What is this inordinate interest you have in heroin??? You are going to have to use something to get your drugs. don't use gas you are unwilling to defend.
WALK WALK WALK!!!!!!
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"Before the first shot is fired, this is already destined to be a war on islam, and so much for the so fine distinction between the terrorists, and those upstanding moderate islamic governments that are on our side. "
Please tell this to President Mubarak, and see what he says, the moderate moslem that these very same people tried to kill three times when I was in Egypt, with bombs and bullets.
as I said before, who says we are going to Afghanistan?
Yes, and he supported owning them also. That is what makes me laugh so much at all the blacks who turned muslim.
One interesting, and little known fact is that the holy land of Islam, Saudi Arabia, did not outlaw slavery of men until 1964. I don't think salvery of women is still allowed either, but, as a good moslem friend of mine said, when I asked him how many children he had, he said 3. 3 boys and 2 girls. Owing to the problem with language, I asked him again, in arabic, to which he again replied, 3, 3 boys and 2 girls.
There are many fine Moslems who are my friends, but some do have some different customs than we do.
From those, too, who call themselves Christians, We did take a covenant, but they forgot a good part of the message that was sent them: so we estranged them, with enmity and hatred between the one and the other, to the day of judgment. And soon will Allah show them what it is they have done.
We are considered a "Christian Nation" by the Muslims
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