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They’re Still Counting: The world has changed, but the recount goes on
National Review Online ^ | September 18, 2001 | Byron York

Posted on 09/18/2001 9:13:19 AM PDT by Sideshow Bob

One of the unnoticed after-effects of the terrorist attacks in New York and Washington has been a delay in the planned release of the last — and largest — media recount of presidential election returns in Florida. Though it seems strange to contemplate today, as George W. Bush goes about his business as commander in chief, under different circumstances this week would likely have seen a high-profile attempt to renew the question of his legitimacy as president.

Before the events of September 11, editors at a consortium of blue-chip news organizations — the New York Times, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, Associated Press, CNN, and others — were in the final stages of work on their analysis of voting in Florida's 67 counties. "We were pretty much homing in [on publication]," says Dan Keating, who is running the project for the Washington Post. Now, the work is on hold, with the newspapers and networks hanging on to the story until a better time. "At this point, I think it's safe to say that this is not what the world is focused on," Keating says.

But whatever happens in coming weeks, the news organizations will have to fight the overwhelming sense that the story, in which they invested hundreds of thousands of dollars, is so...over. The country is facing an unprecedented crisis, Bush is president, buoyed by wartime approval ratings of 80-plus percent, and Al Gore has all but disappeared from the national scene. If anyone other than Democratic National Committee chief Terry McAuliffe and the editors of the New York Times are interested in the issue of hanging chads, they are not saying so.

It's not the outcome originally envisioned for the project, which was born in the heat of the election controversy and scheduled for completion several months ago. "There was some thought that it would only take ten weeks to wrap it up," says Julie Antelman, a spokeswoman for the National Opinion Research Center, which was hired by the consortium to do the actual vote counting. "But once it started it became obvious that that couldn't happen."

That's an understatement. Even though NORC assigned 153 "coders" — vote counters — to the project, the ballot analysis dragged on and on. There were problems getting access to the ballots. There were problems devising the best system for categorizing clues to voters' intent in ballots rejected during the original count. And as the "coding" went on, other media recounts, including the Miami Herald count that perhaps best reproduced actual conditions at the time of the election, showed that Bush would have won Florida under almost every conceivable scenario.

In addition, the fact that the big-media recount has taken so long — it is now more than ten months after Election Day — indicates that the mantra of "count every vote," whatever it might have meant to Gore's supporters, was not a practical possibility at the time of the election. Would Democrats prefer that the count still be going on today? The delays in the media recount are another indication that the vote counting that was done at the time, under the rules in place at the time, was the best indicator of who actually won.

All of that, together with the overwhelming events of the moment, make it likely that we won't see any front-page recount stories anytime soon. The news organizations are stuck with a very expensive story that has become a relic of an earlier time. The world has changed, and they are struggling with the realization that their meticulous inspection of hanging chads simply doesn't matter anymore.


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To: Sideshow Bob

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41 posted on 09/18/2001 12:32:25 PM PDT by ppaul
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To: AnotherTime
"...illegitimate Repug President"

Buh bye, disruptor.

42 posted on 09/18/2001 12:46:47 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty
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To: AnotherTime
Kiss my arse and go away.

You're not factual in your comments - a majority of Americans thought Bush was the legitimatally the President.

Stay away if you're going to twist facts - oops, I forgot - you're a lib.

43 posted on 09/18/2001 12:48:38 PM PDT by daniel boob ((smack!))
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To: daniel boob
He went away: "No Current FReeper by that name."

Nuked by Jim or an admin, by all indications. Posts are gone along with the disruptor.

"John's All Purpose Disruptor Santizer PERL Script."

44 posted on 09/18/2001 12:52:53 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty
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To: Sideshow Bob
The hand of God on America? Yes. We got George Bush instead of Al Gore. Thank God.
45 posted on 09/18/2001 1:22:31 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: ppaul
Thank you for posting this! My boss may have well posed for this cartoon, as just last week after the tragedy, he made this same switch! I am subsequently forwarding the cartoon on to him.

thanks again!

46 posted on 09/18/2001 1:26:54 PM PDT by dware
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To: Sideshow Bob
Bush would have won Florida under almost every conceivable scenario.

And in fact did win it by a half dozen or so of them!

47 posted on 09/18/2001 2:56:48 PM PDT by Brian Allen
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To: Sideshow Bob
So, what were we supposed to do, wait a year until we got a President?

Incredible.

In unrelated news, it was revealed that Palm Beach County stored several thousand of as-yet uncounted votes in the World Trade Center. This information has come from Rep. Gary Condit (Whatever-CA) who said that he got a call from Chandra Levy verifying that she was in hiding in the complex and had seen the dozens of boxes.

48 posted on 09/18/2001 3:11:02 PM PDT by AmishDude
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To: Fuzzy Math
How can anyone say that Bush was the choice of the majority of Americans when we know he lost the popular vote by half-a-million ballots and that AT LEAST 25,000 Floridians who wanted and tried to vote for Gore had their votes voided or their ability to vote unjustly revoked?

We KNOW that Gore would have won Florida if the votes of everyone who tried to vote for him (yes, and everyone who tried to vote for Bush) had been counted.

It's okay for conservatives to crow. Their man is in the WH, their Supreme Court did what they wanted it to, and their man Baker mercilessly outsmarted the Gore team post-election. But it is not okay for conservatives to claim that black is white and expect to get away with it. The truth is that the majority of Americans who voted last Nov. 7 voted for Gore. Had all the voting gone smoothly and had all the votes for Gore been counted, he'd be the president today.

49 posted on 09/18/2001 3:19:33 PM PDT by Hidy
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To: Sideshow Bob
You have got to be kidding. There are still more media recounts going on?
51 posted on 09/18/2001 3:43:50 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: honway
Gore won approximately 600 counties out of 3000(Bush won 2400), yet he supposedly "won" the popular vote. If that doesn't fail the smell test, I don't know what does.

Quick reality check here:

The number of counties won by Bush and Gore has no relation to the popular vote in itself because counties range in population from a few hundred to millions. There is also no correlation between the population of a state and the number of counties.

Gore won the most heavily populated urban counties by wide margins while Bush won most of the least populous rural counties.

An interesting statistic, to be sure, but hardly indicative of vote tampering.

52 posted on 09/18/2001 3:44:40 PM PDT by Loyalist
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To: Hidy
I have to ask, why do people like you come here to spew such things you know to be lies? Do you really think it will gain any traction here?
53 posted on 09/18/2001 3:46:02 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Sideshow Bob
But not counting the absentee Military vote. Wonder how many Hillary votes were in the WTC.......and still are?
54 posted on 09/18/2001 3:50:53 PM PDT by Waco
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To: Hidy
You been snorting chads again?

Thank God Gore isn't President!

55 posted on 09/18/2001 3:51:18 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Hidy
their man Baker mercilessly outsmarted the Gore team

Hey, don't forget the Republican voters who mercilessly outsmarted the Democrat voters by filling out their ballots correctly!!

56 posted on 09/18/2001 3:51:20 PM PDT by PMCarey
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To: Sideshow Bob
I don't like the way this York guy puts it. It's like the New York Times saying last November, that the country needs to move on, so let Bush have it. No, the country doesn't need to move on; Bush won the damned election, fair and square! Don't do him any favors.

This guy is as bad as the Times; both are suggesting that it doesn't matter whether Bush won; i.e., that 'he stole the election, but there's nothing you can do about it.' I look forward to these characters publishing their phony stories, because I have hundreds of files of articles downloaded, showing that Al Gore tried to steal the election, and that Bush won it, legitimately. The longer they hold back with their phony stories, the longer their supporters can say, "We can prove that Gore won, but now is not the time for that." Any time is the right time!

57 posted on 09/18/2001 3:53:09 PM PDT by mrustow
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To: AmishDude
ROTFLMAO! (Though I feel guilty about it, at the same time.)
58 posted on 09/18/2001 3:55:23 PM PDT by mrustow
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To: Republican Wildcat
O.K. by me -- it keeps the thread going, and in case she comes up with any phony "Gore Won" stories, many of us have legit stories, even from mainstream, socialist media orgs, to bury her with.
59 posted on 09/18/2001 3:57:08 PM PDT by mrustow
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To: PMCarey
I think I'll have this engraved on my tombstone for my descendants to see:

"The best thing she gave to her country was a clear Florida vote for President George W. Bush"

60 posted on 09/18/2001 4:04:09 PM PDT by EllaMinnow
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