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1 posted on 09/17/2001 3:16:52 PM PDT by maxwell
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Bunches...it seems to be increasing. Which worries me...
2 posted on 09/17/2001 3:18:58 PM PDT by neutrino (Neutrino)
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I just heard on the radio that they have cancelled the WTO meetings later this month in DC but protest organizers are now saying that they are coming anyway to protest the military response to the terrorist attack. Estimates of 10-20 thousand protesters.
3 posted on 09/17/2001 3:21:32 PM PDT by Movemout
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My question is: what school is this?
4 posted on 09/17/2001 3:21:33 PM PDT by RobbyS
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I wouldn't worry about it. At the University of Dayton, where I teach, the students are too apathetic to get too worked up about anything one way or another. But I DON'T see any "anti-war" sentiment out there.

It is interesting that the local socialist club had its little posters up announcing a planned protest of the World Bank in NYC just before the terrorist attacks . . . and suddenly they have disappeared. I was hoping they would keep them up, and drive people away from their stupid cause.

5 posted on 09/17/2001 3:22:03 PM PDT by LS (schweikart@erinet.com)
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I've seen the anti-war movement up close and personal in downtown Chicago
when I was discharged from the Navy in '69.
I was cursed at, yelled at, ridiculed, and denied entrance
to Nortwestern University simply because I was a Viet Nam Vet.
Then, as now, my support for the 1st amendment and free speech remains the same.

One thing HAS changed, if I see an anti-war protestor
HARMING anyone in the military OR anyone who supports our country,
OR damaging government or personal property
I will personally exercise my right to place them under citizens arrest.

So anti-war protestors be warned DO NOT CROSS THE LINE OF FREE SPEECH
and commit a criminal act, because if I see you I will personally take you to jail.


8 posted on 09/17/2001 3:27:06 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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Minds full of mush. Check that. Socialist minds full of mush. Idiots. You know you can lead a horse (mind) to water (education) but you can't make it drink (think). Forget those fools a go about your life.
9 posted on 09/17/2001 3:28:38 PM PDT by mc5cents
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The lives of foreign peoples [sic] and US soldiers will not bring back those lost in the recent tragedy in New York.

That's never the purpose. Like capital punishment, the purpose for the prosecution of a war is elimination. Whoever and whatever you eliminate can no longer threaten, terrorize, harm, or kill you.

BTW, fools, "active protest" won't bring them back either, so you aren't offering anything that solves the objection you opened with.

10 posted on 09/17/2001 3:28:56 PM PDT by savedbygrace
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Instead of bitching about it, why don't you and your friends make up some pro war and retaliation flyers and post them all over school right beside the little weenies' flyers
11 posted on 09/17/2001 3:29:02 PM PDT by Intimidator
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Flipping through the channels last night I stopped to listen to a Roman Catholic nun speaking with a panel of 4 other Catholic leaders, taking calls about the terrorist attack and the accepted position of the church. One man, so angry his voice trembled, talked of losing a friend at the WTC and how could the Catholic church NOT support going after these terrorists? All panelists agreed that they were to pray for the terrorists, not retaliate in any way. I was shocked. Still trying to process this, because the Protestant church looks to Daniel, Joshua, etc. plus the required military service of early Jews, government as separate from individual, etc. The RCC is influential in this country and could sway many. ???
12 posted on 09/17/2001 3:32:51 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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American was not born by the actions of pacifists and has never been sustained by pacifists. It takes a lot of blood to maintain freedom in a violent and evil world.
19 posted on 09/17/2001 3:35:57 PM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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why don't you and your friends make up some pro war and retaliation flyers and post them all over school right beside the little weenies' flyers

I agree with this advice. There are cells of socialists at every big college campus. They are active, but not the majority--at least not the majority at most campuses. Plaster them poster for poster, and take a couple of football players to whip their asses if they give you any static.

23 posted on 09/17/2001 3:40:04 PM PDT by San Jacinto
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I say a prayer for all those of our brothers and sisters who lost their lives on Sept 11, 2001 and praise the efforts of all the great men and woman who tirelessly continue the search. The following are the words of Thomas Jefferson and seem all to fitting 226 years later "We fight not for glory or for conquest. We exhibit to mankind the remarkable spectacle of a people attacked by unprovoked enemies. In our own native land, in defence of the freedom that is our birthright, and which we ever enjoyed till the late violation of it - for the protection of our property, acquired solely by the honest industry of our fore-fathers and ourselves, against violence actually offered, we have taken up arms. We shall lay them down when hostilities shall cease on the part of the aggressors, and all danger of their being renewed shall be removed, and not before."
27 posted on 09/17/2001 3:43:54 PM PDT by Sparky760
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At my son's church youth group last night the pastor held a discussion of this weeks events. I gave him high marks for his discussion of good and evil and free will( I was surprised) but was highly disapointed in some of the kids remarks.

My son is 12, he understands what is going on, but some of the high school kids sounded like some of the lamebrains you hear on MTV. It's all our fault, War is evil, killing inocent people won't solve anything, it sounded like they got their talking points straight from some peacenik out fit, but more likely from high school teachers and MTV.

31 posted on 09/17/2001 3:45:57 PM PDT by machman
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It's always interested me how much "pacifists" sounds like "pansyfists".
33 posted on 09/17/2001 3:49:00 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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The Independent Media Center (www.indymedia.org), was established by various independent and alternative media organizations and activists

One organization is...

Paper Tiger TV (Who uses Tiger in names of their companies, etc?) is a half-hour public access tv show that has aired weekly since 1981 in Manhattan, San Francisco, and elsewhere. PTTV demystifies the information industry by investigating the corporate structures of media through critical analysis of their content. The project consists of over 100 producers, artists, and activists who work collaboratively. Paper Tiger has offered the media center help with distribution of video via the internet and cable tv, and technical and organizational advice and support. Several producers from PPTV plan to travel to Seattle to assist hands-on in the media center's daily functioning.
Contact: Michael Eisenmenger
Phone: (212)420-9045
E-mail: eisenmen@rci.rutgers.edu

His email leads to Rutgers Univ..

The Research Computing Initiative (RCI) is a cluster of systems that provides central computing services for faculty and staff of the New Brunswick campus.

"Your search FOR "M Eisenmenger " has yielded no matches." Please try again.

"Your search FOR "Michael Eisenmenger" has yielded no matches." Please try again.

interesting that Michael Eisenmenger cannot be fond in their system. Maybe a "Guest"?

RUCS Guest Account Application/Renewal Form

Accounts on the Rutgers University Computing Services (RUCS) faculty/staff systems are reserved for faculty and staff who are affiliated with the University. Guest accounts are available for individuals who are conducting University business and are directly associated with the University, but are not officially on the University's payroll. A guest account can be requested by a full-time Rutgers faculty or staff member. This individual will be considered the University sponsor and will be expected to maintain contact with the guest. Annual renewal forms will be addressed to the sponsor. The signature of the sponsor's Dean, Director, or Department Chair on this form is required to authorize the appropriateness of the University guest account and the use of University resources for the guest's particular activity.

Guest accounts are intended to support the activities of Rutgers University. Guests are expected to use their Rutgers accounts only in support of their work with Rutgers, as described in their guest account application.

These people seem to be part of the WTO demonstrators, the environmentalists, etc. I like the "Guest accounts are intended to support the activities of Rutgers University"

35 posted on 09/17/2001 3:52:12 PM PDT by Lockbox
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The expression "violence never solved anything," is the most ridiculous statement about war ever repeated. Violence has solved a lot of BIG problems - and to the benefit of mankind.
39 posted on 09/17/2001 3:57:54 PM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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We need a new solution for a new century.

These bubbleheads are always babbling about "new solutions," but they almost never actually propose anything coherent. And when they do, it's "new" only if you're a historical moron and never heard of Neville Chamberlain and Munich.

Let's show that America has learned something from Vietnam, from Libya, from Iraq, from Israel, and Afghanistan.

Oh, we have. We've learned that we don't want to be anything like any of those countries. (Although I'll give honorable mention to Israel.)

Keep yourself informed and inform Congress in turn.

Informed of what, exactly?

The only way we can prevent needless violence is through active protest.

What kind of "active protest" would have prevented the needless violence of September 11?

These people are a cancer on our society.

40 posted on 09/17/2001 3:58:12 PM PDT by Campion
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If these losers had been in the majority in 1941, their sisters would have been made into "comfort women" for the Japanese Imperial Army.

They would have been the towel boys, grinning for tips.

42 posted on 09/17/2001 4:00:52 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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PINO Robert Drinan is out of the closet, so to speak.

(That's Priest in Name Only and if you're offended, well you know what you can do.)

44 posted on 09/17/2001 4:07:11 PM PDT by aculeus
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There are three levels to those seeking to disarm us:

THE LEFT RADICALS: Members and hangers-on of the marxist intellegensia who hate the US. They have ceaslessly slandered and spread slander about the US around the world. (For example, a lie that has hurt us grievously in the middle east has been that the US killed 100,000 non-combatant civilians in the Desert Storm Operation, a slander originated by the KGB.

DEEPLY RELIGIOUS, mainly Bhuddist and Catholic. They obviously do not have to worry about what kind of a world their children live in. They have none.

PEOPLE OF SIMPLE MINDED GOODWILL - I wish to God I could live in their wonderfully naieve world, These people are characterized by the young woman who ran towards the Texas (University) Tower, crying out, "We love you! (She was shot dead as were those who tried to help her)" If we do nothing, we had be better be prepared to accept the Talibanization of the world.

45 posted on 09/17/2001 4:08:00 PM PDT by Diogenez
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