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NOW US ADMITS HUNTING HIJACKERS 3 WEEKS BEFORE ATTACK; TERROR CELLS ESCAPE THE BIG FBI DRAGNET
The Express | September 17, 2001 | GABRIEL MILLAND AND GEORGE GORDON

Posted on 09/17/2001 2:44:35 PM PDT by Wallaby

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To: dbbeebs
Yeah, it's Bush's problem. And he will solve it, giving him all the credit. That will gall Hillary and the others to no end.
21 posted on 09/17/2001 4:19:25 PM PDT by hchutch
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To: Wallaby
According to Al Martin Raw, the Redstone Arsenal trains foreign "military" types with questionable backgrounds.

http://www.almartinraw.com/column33.html
22 posted on 09/17/2001 4:29:23 PM PDT by membrsince
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To: membrsince
Redstone Arsenal trained Richard Gutherie, the Timothy McVeigh associate, and the lifelong friend and companion of the son of a CIA official and self-proclaimed Aryan Republican Army chief "Commander Pedro" Langan.
23 posted on 09/17/2001 4:43:16 PM PDT by roughrider
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To: sinkspur
He literally did NOTHING.

We wish. In reality he and his henchmen promoted and permitted export of so called "dual use" technologies, even to countries such as Iran, Syria, and Afghanistan which provide state support to various terrorist groups. They futher gutted the HUMINT capabilities of the CIA. Nothing would have been better, much better. Let's see, isn't there something in the Constitution about giving aide and comfort to the enemies of the United States...oh yes, one of the criteria for treason. He should be strung up by the object of Monica's attentions for a month or ten, live on a WebCam hookup.

24 posted on 09/17/2001 5:05:21 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: MHGinTN
clinton did do something ... he bombed empty tents with $2,000,000 missles

And I'll bet he didn't even manage to hit a camel in the butt. :)

25 posted on 09/17/2001 5:09:52 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: Wallaby
I still think the raid in Dallas was part of their investigation. I believe they had a suspicion but they just couldn't get there in time; or the hijackers went early in order that the FBI didn't find them in time. I'm voting for the second thought - because it has become clear there were many other attacks planned - but because the FBI was getting too close, they went early before all the final plans were in place for all the other attacks.
26 posted on 09/17/2001 6:54:11 PM PDT by Sueann
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To: Wallaby
BTTT. Great post, Wallaby. Thanks, summer
28 posted on 09/17/2001 7:00:02 PM PDT by summer
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To: OKCSubmariner
WTC & Pentagon attacks

Here's the best collection of photographs I've found: </font size>
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29 posted on 09/17/2001 7:26:10 PM PDT by ppaul
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To: Wallaby
Sure, the FBI was onto the enemy three weeks ago. They were probably trying to figure a way to run a sting on them just like the time they practically built the bomb for them in '93, lost them and looked everywhere except at the known target building for them.

They would have been better off to just admit that they didn't have a clue, as usual, because they didn't have a snitch. Of course, it'd still be hard to explain why they turned down the snitches who tried to get up with them.

Federal law enforcement is good at one thing, framing American citizens for crimes that haven't happened or that were committed by others who are never found. Arson, they're getting better at, though.

30 posted on 09/17/2001 7:42:48 PM PDT by Twodees
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To: Wallaby
At least eight managed to escape the huge FBI dragnet and slipped into Mexico

What happened to that big manhunt in Mexico we heard so much about a few days ago? Have you heard any news on that front?

32 posted on 09/17/2001 8:24:47 PM PDT by lawnguy
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To: Wallaby
In view of how quickly Ashcroft & Bush have moved to cover up the evidence of collusion with the terrorists by elements in our own government, I am not hopeful. I am stunned that they think they can stop terrorism without cleaning house. The sad part is that I suspect they will do a far better job of covering it up than Toon did. The only good thing about the attempt on Bush is that it may have opened his eyes.
33 posted on 09/17/2001 8:27:00 PM PDT by Lion's Cub
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To: ppaul
Thank you very much for the photos. GOd Bless.
34 posted on 09/17/2001 8:30:43 PM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: roughrider
... by Al Martin

US State Department Sponsors Training of Would-Be Terrorists

Huntsville, Alabama - The US State Department sponsors the training of would-be terrorists at the Redstone Arsenal's Hazardous Devices School, which offers "explosive ordinance disposal training."

This is the most exclusive explosives school in the United States. It's where firemen, policemen, and municipal bomb squads are trained. It also provides training for the US armed forces, FBI, CIA, as well as foreign army and intelligence personnel. This is the most elite of the munitions schools in the United States and it's part of the Redstone Arsenal complex.

This facility is not run by the US Army or by the military. It is technically run by US State Department employee Ray Funderberg, who's been covertly in charge of it for about twenty years. An added note -- although Funderberg works for the State Department, he dresses in a US Army Colonel's uniform. Official records indicate that he supposedly works for the FBI.

According to a reliable source, one of the Iranians involved in the bombing of the World Trade Center in New York, took training courses at the Redstone Arsenal's school of explosives. He enrolled in this course under the guise of a Pakistani military officer with Pakistani uniform and credentials. This is important to note because Al Martin Raw has previously reported that many hostile nations have a visible presence at the US Redstone Arsenal. Evidently "terrorists," as well as regular armed forces and intelligence officers, are also being "trained" at the Redstone Arsenal.

In other news, five new shipments of "marshmallows" (anti-personnel land mines) have left the Redstone Arsenal. And this week the Friendly Colonel is once again doing business under the "Gulf Coast Trucking and Receiving" moniker.

An inside source wants the Friendly Colonel to provide the State Department employment forms necessary to bring more people in. One of the arms merchants has a deal with the Russians to bring Palestinians into this explosives training program.

For instance, Palestinians would be brought in -- technically as members of the Chinese (Taiwan) Army, even though they are Palestinians. They would hardly pass as "Chinese," but since nobody cares, it's a done deal. Al Martin Raw readers should understand that no one asks any questions about any thing at the Redstone Arsenal in Huntsville, Alabama.

In fact, there are two Palestinians being trained there now in "explosives." As mentioned before, none of them are who they appear to be. It's all just convenience for paperwork. In case the Redstone Arsenal gets investigated, they will claim, "No, these people are legitimate; here's the paperwork."

Suddenly an Afghani guy named Mohammed Habib winds up being a Colonel Sven Larssen in the Swedish Army. This is an actual case. And it shows just how ridiculous it is.

This deception at the Hazardous Devices School is really another School of Americas story. The Friendly Colonel is being offered a $12,000 fee per person to fill out the appropriate State department documents to allow people into the United States on green cards for short stays - 30, 60, 90 day stays - and to enlist foreign nationals into this program. What they're doing is using this program as a cover to bring people in to be trained at the explosives school. The US State Department is actually conspiring with foreign arms merchants and the governments they represent to allow hostile foreign nationals to come to the United States using false documents to be trained at this facility.

They're asking the Friendly Colonel if he would "hire" these people as "trucking agents." (See previous story, Marshmallow Business Is Booming). To make this offer even more appealing, the Colonel is guaranteed that "there will be no heat" - because the US State Department is complicit. This is a standing offer to him from the State Department - to provide false documents for these foreign nationals for $12,000 each.

Aiding in this enormous illegal covert operation of the United States Government, the Colonel expects to make a million dollars by this time next year.

It is our opinion that these illicit operations at the Redstone Arsenal and adjoining facilities - US Missile Command etc - now exceed the volumes of money and egregious conduct of Iran-Contra itself. Now there are thousands of people involved making millions of dollars.

At lunch, the brigadier general and others involved were all licking their chops at the new F-22 Raptor program. They can't wait for that to get scaled up. There will be many Chinese arms merchants who will supply fraudulent spare parts that don't work as usual. They're looking at this program as "a fresh source to defraud more billions with the Department of Defense with the complicity of senior officers through a complex offshore network of arms dealers, not only foreign arms dealers, but cutouts for American corporations that are producing components and systems for this aircraft.

The bottom line is that we are training individuals and foreign military personnel who are hostile to the United States.

Al Martin Raw readers should also understand how the fraud is systemic, how the fraud is all inter-connected, and how conspiratorial the fraud is, namely that it's all being controlled by an elite group that runs through foreign governments, the Department of Defense, and defense contractors.

Their agenda is clear - terrorism is good for business.

Terrorism pumps up everybody's budgets, especially defense, law enforcement, interdiction, etc.

As long as we can keep "foreign terrorism" alive, everyone benefits -- the Department of Defense, the CIA, Department of State, the National Security Agency and many others. They can all ask for more money in their budgets by pointing to the "terrorists." We are in effect augmenting that threat, making sure it stays alive and healthy, so that federal agencies can be funded with ever-increasing amounts of money, especially those agencies that do not have to account for the expenditures of those monies.

They don't have to account for the missing monies because even if they're nominally supposed to account for their budgets they don't. Witness the missing $1.1 trillion from the Department of Defense (See Rumsfeld Inherits Financial Mess)

The brigadier general who's in charge was actually concerned because he and his associates (higher-ranking generals in the Department of Defense, who are committing these frauds) have been notified by the foreign banks where they have deposits that their deposits have grown to such enormous amounts of money that they are unmanageable. They are being asked to transfer their money into other offshore illicit accounts. Some of the banks they're doing business with are very small and obscure offshore banks that simply can not handle such enormous flows of money.

But you can understand the enormity of the fraud, when you're talking about trillions of dollars. This fraud is deep and systemic and involves a conspiracy of thousands of high ranking military officers, high ranking State Department officials, Department of Justice officials, CIA, National Security Agency officials, etc. and their "foreign counterparts."

This is the "Very Real Vast Right Wing Conspiracy," which has never been called to accounting.

Now the Russians are coming on board with the ABM missile treaty. It can be predicted that the Russians will drop their objections to our development of an ABM system in exchange for advanced US military technology, with which, by the way, we are already supplying the Russians and covertly rearming them. That was just an offer on the table, yet we are already supplying the Russians with US highly advanced technology. Like the notorious School of Americas which trained foreign nationals in American torture, interrogation and warfare techniques, the US State Department trains "terrorists.".

In the final analysis, though, nothing is new. The United States Government has covertly sponsored these activities in the past, especially during "Iran-Contra" and "Iraq-Gate." We virtually built the Iraqi military and there are many past correlations. For instance, the US did not stop supplying Iraq with illegal weapons systems until three days before the beginning of the Gulf War.

During "Iran-Contra," the US allowed the Sandinista regime to deal in narcotics so they could generate revenues to purchase more East Bloc weapons in order to become a greater threat to the US, so we could counter that threat by building the Contra Army in which all sorts of fraud against the American taxpayers, corporations, security firms, and banks could be hidden.

It is interesting to note that the Sandinista regime used two of the same companies to purchase weapons for the Contras as well as the Sandinistas. These companies were TransWorld Armaments Corp, based in Quebec City and owned by the infamous Immanuel von Weigensburg and Defcon Industries of Lisbon, Portugal, a CIA-controlled arms merchant cutout also controlled by Major General Richard V. Secord, as noted in the famous Lake Resources lawsuit (United States v. Richard Secord, cv 1202-A 1991 Eastern District Court of Virginia) . [See "The Conspirators: Secrets of an Iran Contra Insider"]

Iraq Gate and Iran Contra are perfect examples of how similar these two operations are compared to what's going on now. We are creating an enemy and we are also supporting existing enemies for the purpose of enriching a small clique of defense contractors, senior military and intelligence officers, and politicians on the right. We are financing terrorism against us as well as attempting to rebuild Russia and then build China into a new power under the concept that covert wars are very profitable.

The "Fight Against Terrorism" has done an awful lot for the Republican Party. And it has enriched a lot of people and corporations.

The drumbeat against "terrorism" continues full speed ahead.

UPDATE - WORLD TRADE CENTER BOMBING -- September 11, 2001

A special State Department Internal Security team from the political liability control office was inserted quickly after the incident into the Redstone Arsenal in Huntsville Alabama.

The Demolition School has been shut down, and they are shredding documents as we speak. As a matter of fact they have made an emergency request to the Department of Defense for more shredders.

According to the general on the scene, the way the Feds are handling the situation is that the Redstone Arsenal is now "locked up tighter than a bull's ass in fly season." And there is a mass shredding party going on.

This guy Funderberg has been moved to an undisclosed location, so the media can't find him. And everybody at the Redstone Arsenal that wore a towel on their heads isn't there anymore. According to an on the scene report, the towelheads are reported to be lying low…

35 posted on 09/17/2001 8:50:59 PM PDT by wooly_mammoth
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To: roughrider
http://www.insightmag.com/archive/200109031.shtml
36 posted on 09/17/2001 8:53:07 PM PDT by wooly_mammoth
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To: sinkspur
yes he did. Clinton brought lots of terrorists into the country and TRAINED them
37 posted on 09/17/2001 9:41:25 PM PDT by alithia
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To: katze
Hey, where did all this bread go now that we need it to help the military fight these terrorists?

http://www.insightmag.com/archive/200109031.shtml

38 posted on 09/18/2001 4:38:06 PM PDT by roughrider
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To: wooly_mammoth
Thanks for the information about the Alabama facility. It's like were always a step or two behind them, and then can't get the information where it will do any good.
39 posted on 09/18/2001 4:40:12 PM PDT by roughrider
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