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Silicon Valley plans to stop skyjackings...all of them.
ZDNET news desk ^ | 9/13.01 | David Coursey

Posted on 09/15/2001 7:11:47 PM PDT by janus

-------------------------------------------------------------- This story was printed from Anchordesk, located at http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk. -------------------------------------------------------------- Silicon Valley's plan to stop skyjackings--all of them

By David Coursey, AnchorDesk

September 13, 2001 9:00 PM PT

URL: http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/stories/story/0,10738,2812283,00.html

How do we prevent airline hijackings? Already we're hearing proposals to put plainclothes sky marshals back on board--presumably to shoot it out with bad guys. After all, the end of skyjackings to Cuba roughly coincided with the arrival of the first generation of sky marshals...or was it Fidel's jailing of a few of these just-arrived

revolutionaries? All I am sure of is gunfire and aircraft are a deadly combination, no matter who fires first.

Improved airport security is another way to make planes safer. But eventually the perceived threat decreases while the impatience of passengers increases. Once these two lines cross we end up back where we were Tuesday morning. And, of course, it's impossible to keep all knives off airplanes unless the meals are changed to Jell-O and PowerBars.

WHAT WE NEED is a way to make planes impossible to hijack. My friend Steve Kirsch thinks he has just such an idea, using mostly proven, off-the-shelf technology. We started trading e-mails about this Wednesday morning and after about three exchanges, I decided this is something I need to share with the AnchorDesk community for your comment.

First, however, an introduction is in order. Steve is best known as the founder of Infoseek, the search engine and Web portal he sold to Disney while the selling was good. Previously, Steve has founded several other companies, including Mouse Systems and Frame Technology--he describes himself as a "serial entrepreneur." His newest company is called Propel and creates software to eliminate database bottlenecks.

Steve and his family also put tremendous energy into do-gooder work. A few years ago, he used a million of his own dollars, got several million of Bill Gates' dollars, and raised other millions in order to save the United Way in San Jose from a huge budget deficit.

ANYWAY, HERE'S STEVE'S IDEA, which is based on the fact that all modern-day planes have global positioning systems (GPS) and are capable of landing on autopilot.

"(Install) 'safe mode' panic buttons that put the plane on forced autopilot that cannot be overridden, except in special circumstances," Steve says. He'd have them mounted in the cockpit, one for each side, with additional optional buttons in crew areas on each side of the plane in both the forward and aft cabins.

Once a plane is in safe mode, suggests Steve, it would randomly select one of the 10 nearest airports capable of accommodating that plane type, and automatically land the aircraft there.

"This technique works because you take both the pilots and the terrorists out of a control situation," he explains. "A terrorist can no longer threaten the pilot to 'Do this or I will kill people' because the terrorist knows that the pilot can't accommodate the demand no matter what."

UNDER STEVE'S PLAN, the terrorist can't get what he wants. His only option then is to kill all the people on the plane, and if his only objective is loss of life, a plane is a mighty tough target when there are easier ones (like buses) available.

Bottom line: there's no more motivation to hijack a plane. All that the hijacker could accomplish is causing the plane to land at a randomly selected airport.

"In fact, it's much worse than hijacking a bus because in the plane case, the hijacker is completely locked up and directly transported to a random jail location that he can't plan for," Steve notes.

Under what circumstances could forced safe mode be overridden? Further details (including more about his idea) are on Steve's Web site at www.skirsch.com, but here are some highlights.

Safe mode disables on touchdown so the pilot can raise flaps, put on the brakes, and reduce the throttle.

Safe mode can be disabled twice per flight if the pilot keys in a 4-digit recall code within 20 seconds of the safe button being pushed. Each pilot has his own 4-digit code that can be used only once per flight. So disabling two false alarms requires the cooperation of both pilots. There are audio warnings in the cockpit as well as lights flashing when someone hits the safe button. If there are further panic button presses after that, the plane will be forced down.

The pilot is allowed to manually vary the altitude of the plane between 15,000 and 40,000 feet above ground level, even when safe mode is engaged, to enable the pilot to maneuver around obstacles and some weather. The pilot can also inform the autopilot of weather areas to avoid.

As soon as a panic button has been pressed, whether accidental or not, ground crews are notified. The big benefit of Steve's proposal is not necessarily that it is ever used, but that just a belief that it exists and works would be enough to prevent skyjackings.

In this way, I see safe-mode jetliners as accomplishing what time-lock safes did for convenience stores and fast-food joints. Sure you can rob them--but only if you are willing to hang around 10 or 20 minutes for the safe to open. Steve's plan likewise takes the incentive out of skyjacking.

Steve is hoping that someone out there in AnchorDesk-land can punch holes in his idea or, alternately, help present it to the FAA, the airlines, aircraft manufacturers, the pilot's union, passenger organizations, and others who might help make our skies safer. Please leave comments on the TalkBack board and we'll see where this goes.

Note to readers: We will be discussing this idea with Steve, as well as talking about some of the privacy issues I raised yesterday, on Friday's R & D Radio Hour show at noon PT. To listen, tune in www.cnetradio.com.

Will Steve's plan eliminate skyjackings? What other ideas do you have? TalkBack to me.


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To: janus
A simpler approach would to make the cock pit impenatrable and have a couple of sky marshalls guarding it with fractals...
21 posted on 09/15/2001 7:49:16 PM PDT by oneway
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To: ConservChristian
This is all great but why can't we just seal the door to the cockpit?

How long would the pilots keep the door sealed with the flight attendants and/or passengers being killed and/or tortured on the other side to induce them to open up? That is apparently what happened on at least one of the planes Tuesday.

22 posted on 09/15/2001 7:51:02 PM PDT by Restorer
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To: jackbill
That is better than 2 airplanes crashing into the WTC. Also, you could program each flight number with a unique emergency landing site and time of landing.
23 posted on 09/15/2001 7:53:12 PM PDT by Gladwin
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To: oneway, RightOnline
Interesting idea. What do you think, RightOnline?
24 posted on 09/15/2001 7:53:18 PM PDT by LBGA
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To: goodnesswins
Sounds reasonable to me, also, HOWEVER, I heard that these terrorists were able to yank out the piece of equipment that allowed the control towers to track them, and I'm wondering if the same could be done with this panic button apparatus, once it's been used?

No need to tear it out. The transponder can simply be turned to standby or turned off. As for the black boxes associated with the panic system, they can be placed in a part of the aircraft not accessible during flight. Preventing hijackers from defeating a panic system would be incredibly easy as long as a self-diagnostic check is included in the system that insures the system is functional just prior to take off. This would prevent an accomplice in the maintenance department from disabling the system right before pushback. The whole system could be built from off the shelf equipment already in existence.

25 posted on 09/15/2001 7:53:42 PM PDT by AlaskaErik
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To: janus
Seal the cockpit and issue a can of pepper spray to each passenger. Impossible at that point to hijack any airplane. And, the perceived risk would be so great as to turn the terrorists attention elsewhere.
26 posted on 09/15/2001 7:55:36 PM PDT by ffrancone
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To: america76
"No automated system in existence can land a plane without a pilot. "

Check your facts...this has been done many times...

If I'm not mistaken, military jets can be landed on an aircraft carrier by remote systems...

27 posted on 09/15/2001 7:57:50 PM PDT by Ethrane
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To: LBGA
Thanks for the ping. This was posted on another thread a day or two ago, and as I said then, if I can figure out how to disarm it in a heartbeat (ex-pilot), then I think it's safe to say that Abdul the Terrorist sure can, as well............after some training, of course. Nice thinking on this guy's part, etc., etc., but WAY too easy to disable.
28 posted on 09/15/2001 7:58:04 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: janus
"and automatically land the aircraft there."

There lies the problem....

29 posted on 09/15/2001 7:58:29 PM PDT by Mr.E
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To: janus
Sounds like revisions are needed. I see lots of bugs to work out. And terrorist don't care if the plane lands or not, they want to disrupt the status quo, free market economy, and Capitolism, USA. So a computer safe mode is fine for the means, but the end result is another matter.
30 posted on 09/15/2001 7:59:17 PM PDT by runningbear
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To: runningbear
It is still better than having them hit the World Trade Center.
31 posted on 09/15/2001 8:01:23 PM PDT by Gladwin
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To: janus
NEWS FLASH!!!! (this is a parody only)

"School bus hit by drunk driver! Children hurt and taken to a local hospital!"

"Community in shock! Outrage expressed for not having seat belts on the bus!"

The above did take place a few years ago. The real problems are the drunk driver and the constant obsession for a technical solution for everything, while avoiding the tougher questions of how to deal with man's fallen nature and tendency to do wrong.

IMO, the auto-pilot, auto-land idea is a joke. But if Steve is a good friend of Mr. Condit and well connected, he could probably legally plunder a small fortune from the taxpayers.

32 posted on 09/15/2001 8:03:34 PM PDT by CWRWinger
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To: crevo_list, Physicist, PatrickHenry, VadeRetro, Junior, jennyp, RadioAstronomer
Ping!! for excellent idea
33 posted on 09/15/2001 8:04:35 PM PDT by Gladwin
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To: CWRWinger
The real problems are the drunk driver and the constant obsession for a technical solution for everything, while avoiding the tougher questions of how to deal with man's fallen nature and tendency to do wrong.

We use a technical solution called penicillin to treat syphilis. Syphilis is caused by moral failings.

34 posted on 09/15/2001 8:07:59 PM PDT by Gladwin
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To: Gladwin
I vote for sealed cockpits and sleepy gas triggered by flight attendants or pilots. No gas masks allowed on board.
35 posted on 09/15/2001 8:10:46 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: janus
There was a discussion of such ideas for a "dead man's auto-land" switch on planes on a late night radio talk show last night.

I'm vague on the details, but apparently this was considered in some detail by some commission one of the talkers was on, and they concluded that the various failure modes were as risky, at least for current planes (which do not lower flaps or landing gear by computer only).

One possible variant seemed possible -- have the "dead man's switch" put the plane in straight ahead flying mode, _only_ releasable by a signal from another plane flying _very_ close (to prevent ground activation). That other plane would be a fighter escort, which would have time to scramble and catch up to the hi-jacked plane.

The talk show would have likely been on KSFO 560, San Francisco, Thursday or Friday evening. I don't recall more - sorry.

36 posted on 09/15/2001 8:13:26 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow
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To: janus
And how do you propose to land the plane? I have a much better idea but I certainly won't tell you and the thief Bill Gates who made a mint off other people's ideas. No thank you. If you are interested email me and my people will get in touch with Gates and make sure he has his checkbook handy. Semper Fi, Mike
37 posted on 09/15/2001 8:16:10 PM PDT by HEFFERNAN2
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To: goodnesswins
Airliners cannot land on autopilot. I think that this Steve Kirsch is the same guy who took out full page ads criticizing the president's education record just prior to the election. He's a jackass and it sounds like he's an idiot too.
38 posted on 09/15/2001 8:16:34 PM PDT by AZPubbie
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To: janus
If the hi-jackers can get at it....it is not fool proof. They could torture the pilots into giving up the code. Better solution is to seal off the cockpit someway. If this is publicly known, the thugs will look elsewhere. Most flights don't need any pampering from stewardesses and stewards. They could even fend for themselves on longer flights. Passengers could be isolated from the crew.
39 posted on 09/15/2001 8:21:00 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: AZPubbie
Uh, yes they can.


40 posted on 09/15/2001 8:25:23 PM PDT by Gladwin
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