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Who are our friends?
9-13-01 | BiaR

Posted on 09/13/2001 8:29:52 PM PDT by Born in a Rage

Well, it seems that France and Germany have made statements declaring that the attack on us Tuesday were not "acts of war" and in the meantime India, Russia and Japan have offered their help/assistance. Who are our friends?


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Sorry if I don't get to answer any/all of the replies....but I'd really like to know what other Americans think about this.
1 posted on 09/13/2001 8:29:54 PM PDT by Born in a Rage
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To: Born in a Rage
If Germany and France forget who helped them for DECADES,

then they deserve to be dumped and lumped with Norway and the Taliban.


2 posted on 09/13/2001 8:37:49 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Born in a Rage
Guess Germany has caught France's appeasement disease and think licking Arab terrorist boots will keep them from being kicked too much in the ass. Either that, or they must think such lies will get them more business in the Middle East.
3 posted on 09/13/2001 8:40:42 PM PDT by Post Toasties
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To: Born in a Rage
Guess Germany has caught France's appeasement disease and think licking Arab terrorist boots will keep them from being kicked too much in the ass. Either that, or they must think such lies will get them more business in the Middle East.
4 posted on 09/13/2001 8:41:42 PM PDT by Post Toasties
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To: Born in a Rage
The Canadian prime minister also has not called the 9/11 attack an act of war.
5 posted on 09/13/2001 8:45:09 PM PDT by Ipberg
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To: Born in a Rage
France and Germany have not seen any real violence since WWII. It was the US and the UK who fought in the Gulf War. Further, the libs running these countries are probably still crying over Kyoto, and praise how great Afghanistan is at not polluting the world.

India knows first-hand that bin Laden needs to be destroyed. They want him gone for their own safety.

Russia would love to roll over Afghanistan again. They hate bin Laden.

Japan has been an ally since shortly after the end of WWII. Their support does not suprise me.

Look for REAL (read: commitment of troop) support from the UK and Canada, possibly Australia.

6 posted on 09/13/2001 8:47:41 PM PDT by jae471
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To: Born in a Rage
All I'm seeing on the UK/EU sites is a bunch of gloating : Now the US will have to give up NMD...Now the US will have to back the ICC...Now the US will have to cave on Kyoto. (One exception : The Telegraph, and the Scottish sites aren't too bad.)It's unrelenting. They actually believe that because we asked for Nato backing, that we will end up letting the UN charter supercede our Constitution and the ICC superceded our entire justice system. Oh, and wwe'll ruin our economy ireepairably and let the 3rd world dominated UN GA make our energy decisions for us.It's unreal.
7 posted on 09/13/2001 8:49:17 PM PDT by kaylar
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To: Born in a Rage
I don't know who they'll be, but I'll bet there will be ten including us. We'll be like an anti-terrorism coalition. A kingdom like no other and we'll do whatever we please in shutting down terrorism. Heck, we'll even guarantee Israels total security for at least seven years.
8 posted on 09/13/2001 8:52:06 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Born in a Rage
"Who are our friends"

Hmmmm.
In this day & age...
A dog.

If you feed 'em good.

9 posted on 09/13/2001 8:54:50 PM PDT by Landru
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To: Born in a Rage
I hate to be cynical, but I suspect Russia and India have alterior motives.

According to reports, the bin Laden training center is on the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan. As you may recall, Pakistan was once part of India---Islamic rebels managed to break away from the Hindus in India---and they have been sworn enemies ever since. I'm sure India would like nothing better than to have Pakistan overflown, overrun, and overwhelmed by our forces on their way to bin Laden's lair. If the bombs and the bayonets should spill over the border into Pakistan, much the better.

The Russians, of course, are still smarting from their "police action" in Afghanistan. It's been called their "Vietnam" with overwhelming Soviet forces bloodied and forced to withdraw by Mujahadeen(sp) guerillas. They are unlikely to invade again, but I suspect they would love to spank them unmercifully from a safe altitude.

I don't know about Japan, but I guess they have economic reasons to assist us.

Alliances rarely arise from pure motives, and are usually fleeting. Stalin and Hitler were "friends" briefly, as long as it suited their purposes. FDR, Churchill, and Stalin were, too (briefly).

10 posted on 09/13/2001 8:58:07 PM PDT by ZOOKER
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Oh yes, I forgot Israel. They'll be more than happy to eliminate the Palistinian/Saudi/Egyptian/Syrian/Jordanian/Lebanese threats for us.
11 posted on 09/13/2001 9:02:33 PM PDT by jae471
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To: Born in a Rage
Russia, India, and Japan stand shoulder-to-shoulder with us; Pakistan is offering full support; The Star Spangled Banner was played today on British soil, and an altar of flowers not unlike that for Lady Diana was built up, although smaller, at least at the time I saw it on TV.

If you've noticed, there are still liberal idiots in this country that are talking about "bringing bin Laden to justice." I am pleased that I see that Prez Bush, Oliver North, and Newt Gingrich are thinking the same way I am: This is not a judicial issue; we're not going out to "arrest" bin Laden and "bring him in." We're after his head, and we're going to get it. When this is over - however long it takes - bin Laden will be history, along with a whole host of "wannabe" replacements.

This is a situation that is quickly dividing up into only two sides: If you aint for us, you're against us. Naturally, the Taliban rats are scrambling for cover, running around like cartoon characters, knowing we're on our way. And we're big time pissed off.

12 posted on 09/13/2001 9:03:08 PM PDT by Marauder
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To: Born in a Rage
My guesses?

Got a good start with Britain and (some of) NATO. Apparently India will be there. Australia, too. Israel is just chomping at the bit to get their gear on!

Germany, France, and Norway will offer tokens, but not much more commitment than, say, Mauritania, only less effective.

Line up 12 Muslim dictatorships on the other side.

China and will wait to see how things look before enjoining, and trying to use Panama and Cuba as bases... just about a week before Taiwan gets a few carrier task forces.

Russia is the wild-card. They don't like the Afghanis but they don't want a border-war with China.

The 'good news' is that the land war will mostly play out 'over there' once again, but for the first time, America will sustain significant civilian casualties... as we already have.

13 posted on 09/13/2001 9:07:23 PM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Born in a Rage
I expect no help from any Eurotrash. I expect no support from any Eurotrash. They took the low road a long time ago. Quite frankly, we should abandon Europe and NATO and let them rot in the hell they are creating for themselves.
14 posted on 09/13/2001 9:11:07 PM PDT by AlaskaErik
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Not a judicial issue...Read this if you want to make your blood boil. Especially paragraph 4.
15 posted on 09/13/2001 9:11:44 PM PDT by kaylar
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I don't believe the UK is Eurotrash. They will help us.

Continental Europe is another issue...

16 posted on 09/13/2001 9:23:40 PM PDT by jae471
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......(Australian Prime Minister John Howard) reaffirmed that what had been done was "an act of war against the US and the Americans are entitled to, having properly identified those responsible... retaliate".

"It is important that countries like Australia play a role in identifying ourselves with the Americans. Just because you are big and strong doesn't mean that you can't feel lonely and you can't feel that your heart has been ripped out." He said at such times, American needed to know it had " some really good reliable friends."

http://www.smh.com.au/news/0109/13/world2/world9.html

17 posted on 09/13/2001 9:28:44 PM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie
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...look for REAL (read: commitment of troop) support from the UK and Canada, possibly Australia...

"....Prime Minister John Howard today pledged that Australia will give America military assistance, if it asks, in any retaliation over Tuesday's devastating terrorist assault.

He told a press conference just before he left Washington to return home that while Australia had not been asked, "we would provide support within our capability".

"We have to accept that this is an occasion when we should stand shoulder to shoulder with the Americans, because this is not just an assault on America, it's an assault on the way of life that we hold dear in common," he said."

http://www.smh.com.au/news/0109/13/world2/world9.html

18 posted on 09/13/2001 9:30:49 PM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie
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Read this if you want to make your blood boil. Especially paragraph 4.

Is the author suggesting that we should have sought to bring the emperor of Japan to trial on December 8, 1941 for his bombing of Pearl Harbor!?

19 posted on 09/13/2001 9:35:57 PM PDT by supercat
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I don't believe the UK is Eurotrash. They will help us.

While the UK wasn't mentioned in this article they are in a death spiral. Today, the UK is much like the Titanic. The bow is submerged and the stern is out of the water. Blair continues to let Britain be a dumping ground for third world refuse, knowing that they'll want to suck at the government teat, and that they'll vote Labour since they love redistributing the wealth through confiscatory taxes. Those Britons who really support us are the older generation, who fought alongside us in WWII. Today's youth could care less. They vote Labour and se the EU as their future.

20 posted on 09/13/2001 10:03:28 PM PDT by AlaskaErik
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