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To: Arthur McGowan
You are simply wrong. I am not hysterical, and my calls for vengence are based on cold, historical analysis. Like it or not, America is the dominant global power. We either destroy those who have attempted to destroy us and our way of life, or we will ultimately be destroyed. I don't expect a push button war, as you call it. I'm a former artillery officer, and I know how nasty and ugly, down and dirty, real war is. Do you?

My ancestor who fought with Charles Martel at the Battle of Tours (against Islam!!) was prepared to die to defend Christianity and the West. My ancestors who brought King John to book at Runnymeade were willing to die to protect their liberties. My forebears who fought in the French and Indian War, the Revolution, the War of 1812, the Civil War, the Spanish American War, WWI, and WWII were willing to die, and in several cases did, to preserve their liberties and way of life. We must be prepared at this time to do whatever is necessary to defend the West and our liberties against radical Islam. It will neither be easy nor quick. We have no other choice but surrender. And, I, for one, am not willing to stand aside and let these scum, for that is what they are, win. I hate war, as Sherman did. But if we must wage it, we must wage it with the utter ruthlessness that ensures that no one will ever desire to fight us again.

If you haven't the stomach for the coming war, then stand aside and let America get on with what's necessary.

197 posted on 09/13/2001 9:59:22 AM PDT by CatoRenasci
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To: CatoRenasci
My forebears who fought in the French and Indian War, the Revolution, the War of 1812, the Civil War, the Spanish American War, WWI, and WWII were willing to die, and in several cases did, to preserve their liberties and way of life.

It is painfully apparent, by your terminology for the War of Northern Aggression, that YOUR ancestors took part in the destruction of the American Republic and the erection of the grotesque Leviathan of today.

Sorry to see that; sorry to say that; --but it is the bottom line. Now the buzzards have come home to roost. I recommend secession of the American South, Midwest, and most of the Northwest as the best possible solution. Let's repair to The American Republic while we can.

What was done to the American South in 1861-1877 is being done to the rest of the planet today and they are not gonna lay down and die while we do it.

"The Gettysburg speech was at once the shortest and the most famous oration in American history... the highest emotion reduced to a few poetical phrases. Lincoln himself never even remotely approached it. It is genuinely stupendous. But let us not forget that it is poetry, not logic; beauty, not sense. Think of the argument in it. Put it into the cold words of everyday. The doctrine is simply this: that the Union soldiers who died at Gettysburg sacrificed their lives to the cause of self-determination -- that government of the people, by the people, for the people, should not perish from the earth. IT IS DIFFICULT TO IMAGINE ANYTHING MORE UNTRUE. The Union soldiers in the battle actually fought against self-determination; it was the Confederates who fought for the right of their people to govern themselves." -- H.L. Mencken

213 posted on 09/13/2001 10:26:39 AM PDT by LadyJD
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To: CatoRenasci
If you haven't the stomach for the coming war, then stand aside and let America get on with what's necessary.

A great reply on a sadly polluted thread.

310 posted on 09/13/2001 4:37:36 PM PDT by aculeus
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