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They can't see why they are hated
The Guardian ^ | Thursday September 13, 2001 | Seumas Milne

Posted on 09/13/2001 6:33:57 AM PDT by getoffmylawn

Nearly two days after the horrific suicide attacks on civilian workers in New York and Washington, it has become painfully clear that most Americans simply don't get it. From the president to passersby on the streets, the message seems to be the same: this is an inexplicable assault on freedom and democracy, which must be answered with overwhelming force - just as soon as someone can construct a credible account of who was actually responsible.

Shock, rage and grief there has been aplenty. But any glimmer of recognition of why people might have been driven to carry out such atrocities, sacrificing their own lives in the process - or why the United States is hated with such bitterness, not only in Arab and Muslim countries, but across the developing world - seems almost entirely absent. Perhaps it is too much to hope that, as rescue workers struggle to pull firefighters from the rubble, any but a small minority might make the connection between what has been visited upon them and what their government has visited upon large parts of the world.

But make that connection they must, if such tragedies are not to be repeated, potentially with even more devastating consequences. US political leaders are doing their people no favours by reinforcing popular ignorance with self-referential rhetoric. And the echoing chorus of Tony Blair, whose determination to bind Britain ever closer to US foreign policy ratchets up the threat to our own cities, will only fuel anti-western sentiment. So will calls for the defence of "civilisation", with its overtones of Samuel Huntington's poisonous theories of post-cold war confrontation between the west and Islam, heightening perceptions of racism and hypocrisy.

As Mahatma Gandhi famously remarked when asked his opinion of western civilisation, it would be a good idea. Since George Bush's father inaugurated his new world order a decade ago, the US, supported by its British ally, bestrides the world like a colossus. Unconstrained by any superpower rival or system of global governance, the US giant has rewritten the global financial and trading system in its own interest; ripped up a string of treaties it finds inconvenient; sent troops to every corner of the globe; bombed Afghanistan, Sudan, Yugoslavia and Iraq without troubling the United Nations; maintained a string of murderous embargos against recalcitrant regimes; and recklessly thrown its weight behind Israel's 34-year illegal military occupation of the West Bank and Gaza as the Palestinian intifada rages.

If, as yesterday's Wall Street Journal insisted, the east coast carnage was the fruit of the Clinton administration's Munich-like appeasement of the Palestinians, the mind boggles as to what US Republicans imagine to be a Churchillian response.

It is this record of unabashed national egotism and arrogance that drives anti-Americanism among swaths of the world's population, for whom there is little democracy in the current distribution of global wealth and power. If it turns out that Tuesday's attacks were the work of Osama bin Laden's supporters, the sense that the Americans are once again reaping a dragons' teeth harvest they themselves sowed will be overwhelming.

It was the Americans, after all, who poured resources into the 1980s war against the Soviet-backed regime in Kabul, at a time when girls could go to school and women to work. Bin Laden and his mojahedin were armed and trained by the CIA and MI6, as Afghanistan was turned into a wasteland and its communist leader Najibullah left hanging from a Kabul lamp post with his genitals stuffed in his mouth.

But by then Bin Laden had turned against his American sponsors, while US-sponsored Pakistani intelligence had spawned the grotesque Taliban now protecting him. To punish its wayward Afghan offspring, the US subsequently forced through a sanctions regime which has helped push 4m to the brink of starvation, according to the latest UN figures, while Afghan refugees fan out across the world.

All this must doubtless seem remote to Americans desperately searching the debris of what is expected to be the largest-ever massacre on US soil - as must the killings of yet more Palestinians in the West Bank yesterday, or even the 2m estimated to have died in Congo's wars since the overthrow of the US-backed Mobutu regime. "What could some political thing have to do with blowing up office buildings during working hours?" one bewildered New Yorker asked yesterday.

Already, the Bush administration is assembling an international coalition for an Israeli-style war against terrorism, as if such counter-productive acts of outrage had an existence separate from the social conditions out of which they arise. But for every "terror network" that is rooted out, another will emerge - until the injustices and inequalities that produce them are addressed.


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I know that this is a very emotional time for us and we are filled with unprecedented anger but we must not stop thinking.
1 posted on 09/13/2001 6:33:57 AM PDT by getoffmylawn
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To: getoffmylawn
OH PLEASE. There is nothing of value in this Left-wing anti-American tripe.
2 posted on 09/13/2001 6:38:32 AM PDT by veronica
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The only thing I'm thinking at the moment is that the article you posted is a worthless piece of crap.
3 posted on 09/13/2001 6:39:08 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: getoffmylawn
Yah, brahs. However, it is far better to kill and think at the same time. This guy has no clue about the American character, and has no idea about what we are about to do to these people.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

4 posted on 09/13/2001 6:40:23 AM PDT by section9
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To: getoffmylawn
Typical tripe posted by the pro-terrorist crowd. You have a sick mind.
5 posted on 09/13/2001 6:40:55 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper
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To: getoffmylawn
Sorry. When someone's taking innocent lives in a wholesale manner, it's not reasonable to ask why their doing it.
6 posted on 09/13/2001 6:42:18 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty
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To: getoffmylawn
Bush Sr. and his CIA pals trained them for terrorist techniques to counter the Soviets.
Ronald Reagan and the CIA helped put Saddam Hussain in power because he was a "stabilizing" influence in the middle east.
7 posted on 09/13/2001 6:42:25 AM PDT by BubbaZanetti
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To: getoffmylawn
There are a surprising number of apologists for the terrorists posting on FR.
8 posted on 09/13/2001 6:42:38 AM PDT by Roscoe
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No. It's time they worry about why WE'RE angry. We've pandered to their feelings for the last several years. And this is what we get for it. Now let the terrorists worry about what they have wrought.
9 posted on 09/13/2001 6:43:32 AM PDT by piasa
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To: getoffmylawn
This isn't thinking. This is the same kind of reflexive, kneejerk anti-American crap we had to put up with from the friends of evil during the Cold War.

You and your traitorous leftie friends can go to Hell.

10 posted on 09/13/2001 6:43:53 AM PDT by BurkeanCyclist
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To: getoffmylawn
It's obvious that there are a few cells that have to be targeted in Britain as well ... maybe we can have the British Army burn out this nest of vipers.
11 posted on 09/13/2001 6:44:26 AM PDT by BlueLancer
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The rest of the world seems all too happy to take American dollars, food and weapons. I guess in their minds it's a one-way street.
12 posted on 09/13/2001 6:44:26 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: getoffmylawn
It is this record of unabashed national egotism and arrogance that drives anti-Americanism among swaths of the world's population, for whom there is little democracy in the current distribution of global wealth and power. If it turns out that Tuesday's attacks were the work of Osama bin Laden's supporters, the sense that the Americans are once again reaping a dragons' teeth harvest they themselves sowed will be overwhelming.

Yes, I think. I think you and this author are enemies of America. You are scum if you think for one second that the US or Americans deserved this.

13 posted on 09/13/2001 6:44:51 AM PDT by TheOtherOne
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To: getoffmylawn
Expletive deleted.
14 posted on 09/13/2001 6:46:47 AM PDT by dighton
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You better duck and run son!

Press accounts that question the orthodox view are not wanted today!

;^)

15 posted on 09/13/2001 6:46:51 AM PDT by LadyJD
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To: getoffmylawn
The left-wing scum who write for The Guardian can be expected to say things like this.

I have always thought (flame suit on) that the Palestinians had a legitimate beef with the Israelis over the settlements in Gaza and the West Bank and still believe that Israeli intransigence over removing those settlements are a major contributing factor to the failure of the various peace processes over the past 20-odd years.

That said, the world changed on Tuesday. The Palestinians rejoiced at the murder of between 10-30,000 absolutely innocent American citizens and foreigners here legally.

I have lost any sympathy I have ever had for the Palestinians' plight.

The ONLY American response that can work is to visit upon the terrorists who can be caught, and their families, complete destruction. Countries found involved should be dealt with peacefully: they should know and experience the same peace Carthage did after Scipio Africanus conquered the city: no one left alive to seek vengence, no two stones standing, salt in the earth.

16 posted on 09/13/2001 6:48:43 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Terroristi Esse Delendam!)
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To: getoffmylawn
It doesn't matter anymore what we did wrong or right. We have been attacked on our own US soil. Things are very different today than they were last week. 20,000 innocent American citizens killed in their work places and in their own airspace. No more sympathy for the other side possible.
17 posted on 09/13/2001 6:49:31 AM PDT by FITZ
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I know that this is a very emotional time for us and we are filled with unprecedented anger but we must not stop thinking.

That doesn't mean thinking like the socialists at the Guardian.

18 posted on 09/13/2001 6:49:52 AM PDT by Snuffington
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To: getoffmylawn
Thank you for your courage in the face of the catty, effeminate responses you will inevitably get for posting this disturbing article. The rampant, ongoing feminization of our society is never more apparent than when we need cool, hard-eyed, rational--dare I say it: "manly" thinking.

If you are a man, I salute you for your manliness. I hope our leaders will show as much in the war to come. If you are a woman I'm proud to see a few of our sex are still as strong and smart as our anscetors were.

19 posted on 09/13/2001 6:50:20 AM PDT by LaBelleDameSansMerci
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I no longer care why we are hated. I don't care about the Jihadist's problems, or their social conditions, or whatever injustice they perceive as justification for this.

Smoke 'em.

20 posted on 09/13/2001 6:50:32 AM PDT by Riley
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