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Bin Laden: Under arrest or running Afghan army?
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Thursday, September 13, 2001 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 09/12/2001 11:05:31 PM PDT by JohnHuang2


DAY OF INFAMY 2001
Is bin Laden under arrest?
Earlier reports say he is leader
of Afghanistan's military forces



By Joseph Farah
© 2001 WorldNetDaily.com

While an Arabic online newspaper reported the Taliban had placed bin Laden under house arrest in the wake of the suicide attacks that destroyed the New York skyscrapers, damaged the Pentagon and killed as many as 30,000 Americans Tuesday, earlier United Press International dispatches reveal he might actually be in command of Afghanistan's military.

Quoting "fundamentalist Arab sources," the Arabic newssite Ilaf said the Taliban arrested bin Laden before placing him under surveillance with several of his assistants, including the head of the Egyptian branch of Al-Jihad Ayman Al-Zawahri and bin Laden's military commander, Muhammad Atef Al-Makni.

"A number of Afghan fighters are under house arrest along with bin Laden," said the report.

But a diplomat at the Taliban's embassy in Abu Dhabi told Agence France-Presse he could not confirm the report.

"All we know is that he (bin Laden) is somewhere in Afghanistan, but we are not aware if he is under house arrest," the diplomat said.

Bin Laden and commander Atef have been indicted for the 1998 bombings of the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania.

Meanwhile, UPI reports first published Aug. 30, 12 days before the devastating terror attacks in the U.S., suggest bin Laden was appointed as either defense minister or commander in chief of the Taliban military forces.

A spokesman at the Taliban headquarters in the southwestern Afghan city of Kandahar told UPI the Aug. 30 reports were "baseless and vicious, being spread to further damage our already tense relations with the West."

The same day, however, Russia's official RIA Novosti news agency carried a story of Moscow's denunciation of Taliban's appointment of bin Laden. The first such report was broadcast by Iran's official Voice of the Islamic Republic radio.

"The move confirms that a center of international terrorism is being set up in the Taliban-controlled territory in Afghanistan," the Russian Foreign Ministry was quoted as saying in the Novosti story.

UPI's reporting on the subject went even further, quoting diplomatic observers in Washington as saying bin Laden is useful for the Taliban as a tool to annoy the West.

"The Taliban strategy is win recognition from Western government by acting crazy, there is a pattern in their madness," said one observer.

Although it controls more than 90 percent of Afghanistan, the Taliban regime in Kabul is only recognized by three countries, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. Pakistan, however, is the only country to have full diplomatic relations with the Taliban government. Saudi Arabia withdrew its envoy from Kabul after Taliban refused to surrender bin Laden, who has been hiding in Afghanistan since 1996. And the United Arab Emirates only maintains a low-profile relationship with the religious extremists now running Kabul, according to UPI.

"Pseudo-religious values are being used as a cover to prepare a bridgehead for expansion of militant extremism and separatism far beyond the region's borders," said the statement of the Russian Foreign Ministry.

Russian media had also quoted Pakistan's Nation daily as saying that the Taliban had named bin Laden commander of their troops.

The move, if true, would be seen as menacing to Moscow as hundreds of Russian border guards monitor the Afghan-Tajik border and a potential spill of violence could plunge the whole region into chaos. The Taliban's aim to build an orthodox Islamic state has given rise to many Islamic extremist movements in the former Soviet republics in Central Asia. In recent years, Islamic insurgents from Afghanistan launched raids on Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan and Tajikistan.

Moscow also condemned the appointment of Juma Namangani as bin Laden's deputy. Namangani, an ethnic Uzbek, was linked to a number of raids on Kyrgyzstan's Batken district over the last three years. Namangani advocates creation of an Islamic state run by a regime similar to the Taliban's and spreading over Central Asia.

"Incorporation of the international terrorists' leaders into the ruling structures of the Taliban shows the need to take decisive measures to collectively counter global challenges that are put forward from the Taliban-controlled territory," said the Russian statement.

Under arrest or running the show? The Osama bin Laden story continues to gets more mysterious.

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1 posted on 09/12/2001 11:05:31 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
Old Joe came out of the gate a little bit early on this one. They have denied it this very morning.
2 posted on 09/12/2001 11:08:34 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: JohnHuang2
One of my fears is that he meets with an "accident" before we can capture him. That would give Muslims another martyr and would mean we'd never have answers to so many questions. If we do ever get ahold of this scum, I'd like to have a few Israeli information extraction specialists get some answers out of him, since the American Criminal Lover's Union would be so concerned about his rights (never mind the rights of 30,000 Americans) and we could never get anything out of him.
3 posted on 09/12/2001 11:14:38 PM PDT by AlaskaErik
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To: JohnHuang2
Source The Triumph of Terrorism

September 11, 2001

A series of apparently coordinated terrorist acts today have altered—no doubt permanently—Americans' sense of domestic security. Attacks so far have leveled New York City's World Trade Center and damaged the Pentagon, and a number of commercial jets are downed or missing. It is not yet known who orchestrated the well-planned attacks.

International terrorism has occurred with frightening regularity in recent decades. Over the years, a number of Atlantic contributors have considered why this is so and what can or should be done about it.

In "Thinking About Terrorism" (June 1986), Conor Cruise O'Brien argued that leaders in the United States and elsewhere fundamentally missunderstand why people turn to terrorism—and how to dissuade them from it. O'Brien went on to suggest that our current methods of combatting terrorism not only are bound to fail, but might even encourage attacks.
Today's world—especially the free, or capitalist, world—provides highly favorable conditions for terrorist recruitment and activity. The numbers of the frustrated are constantly on the increase, and so is their awareness of the life-style of the better-off and the vulnerability of the better-off..... A wide variety of people feel starved for attention, and one surefire way of attracting instantaneous worldwide attention through television is to slaughter a considerable number of human beings, in a spectacular fashion, in the name of a cause.
Mark Edington's "Taking the Offensive" (June 1992) argued that the United States and other countries should take a far more active role in stamping out terrorism. Excessive caution on the part of government leaders, he suggested, has prevented our military from taking measures to destroy known centers of terrorist training and weapons stockpiling.
Undercutting [terrorism] would require that the United States move away from its predominantly defensive approach to terrorism. It would also require us to decide how much weight ought to be placed on the right of people to be safe from wanton violence when protection of that right runs afoul of other foreign-policy objectives.

Whereas target countries must succeed every time in protecting themselves, terrorists have to succeed in their objectives only sporadically.... The defensive strategy toward terrorism has, in essence, made us sitting ducks.
In "Blowback" (May 1996), Mary Anne Weaver explained that a network of well-armed Islamic fundamentalist terrorists with bases throughout the world was inadvertently brought into being by U.S. efforts in the 1980s to support Islamic fundamentalist resistance against the Soviet Union in Afghanistan.
The CIA ... had been obsessed with driving out the Soviets. As a result the CIA helped to train and fund what eventually became an international network of highly disciplined and effective Islamic militants—and a new breed of terrorist as well....

One of [the jihad's] most charismatic and powerful champions is Osama bin Laden, the billionaire scion of a leading Saudi family. Fervent and devout, he was described to me by one U.S. intelligence official as "a religious fanatic with enormous wealth—a man with a vision, who knows precisely how he wants to convert that vision into reality."

When I asked Hosni Mubarak about Bin Laden, he winced. "He wants to take over the world," he said "He's a megalomaniac."
And finally, in "The Counterterrorist Myth" (July/August 2001), Reuel Marc Gerecht, a former high-level CIA operative, argued that the CIA's efforts to infiltrate bin Ladin's anti-American terrorist organization in Peshawar have been ineffective and misguided. The article highlights the difficulty of obtaining good intelligence about any tightly organized fringe group that may be targeting the United States.
No case officer stationed in Pakistan can penetrate either the Afghan communities in Peshawar or the Northwest Frontier's numerous religious schools, which feed manpower and ideas to bin Ladin and the Taliban, and seriously expect to gather useful information about radical Islamic terrorism—let alone recruit foreign agents.

Even a Muslim CIA officer with native-language abilities (and the Agency, according to several active-duty case officers, has very few operatives from Middle Eastern backgrounds) could do little more in this environment than a blond, blue-eyed all-American.... An officer who tries to go native, pretending to be a true-believing radical Muslim searching for brothers in the cause, will make a fool of himself quickly.
—Sage Stossel and Katie Bacon

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4 posted on 09/12/2001 11:17:10 PM PDT by Yellow Rose of Texas
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To: JohnHuang2
"The Taliban strategy is win recognition from Western government by acting crazy, there is a pattern in their madness," said one observer.

That is a pretty good take, on the Islamic mind. Islamic fundamentalists believe that continued terrorism will convince the west to abandon Israel. They are truly crazy, as was Japan at the end.

The Russians are ready to come in with us on this, I believe. Call it delayed gratification. They can say it avenges earlier lost lives.

Any way you cut it, Afghanistan is in deep shit.

5 posted on 09/12/2001 11:25:59 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: JohnHuang2
He arrested himself but then was able to bail himself out.
6 posted on 09/12/2001 11:28:04 PM PDT by Rome2000
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To: Rome2000
That's funny; I'd forgotten what funny is.
7 posted on 09/12/2001 11:45:48 PM PDT by Tarakotchi
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To: Yellow Rose of Texas
Now is the time for ALL true Americans to UNITE and stand behind President Bush!
Any political debates can take place AFTER this crisis is handled.

UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL

God Bless America!
What We as Americans Can Do
1) Pray
2) Give blood and whatever else the Red Cross calls for.
3) Support our military and law enforcement.

And Finally:
HUNT DOWN AND PUBLICLY EXECUTE
THOSE RESPONSIBLE BY HANGING!

8 posted on 09/13/2001 1:08:52 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: JohnHuang2
You realize, that is the report from Russian intelligence is accurate, then what the Taliban government in Afghanistan is doing is not making Bin Laden another Colin Powell.

What they're doing is grooming him to be an Ayatollah.

That's precisely how it's done in the Islamic-State part of the world. Give a cleric-scholar an army, and see if he's got what it takes. If he wins battles, then he becomes a cleric-warlord. Like Khomeini - who was revered.

I don't know if this is true; we'll have to wait. But if it is, we've got a real problem-o in the making.

9 posted on 09/13/2001 2:05:18 AM PDT by danielmryan (danryan@undergroundmind.com)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
HUNT DOWN AND PUBLICLY EXECUTE THOSE RESPONSIBLE BY HANGING!

Unless it would risk American lives to take them in. If that is the case, just drop a guided missile on them.

10 posted on 09/13/2001 3:30:06 AM PDT by xm177e2
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To: AlaskaErik
Capture him? Why would we want to capture him, for a trial? Think that would go over well? No he needs to die a sudden violent death, surrounded by as many of his followers as we can arrange. We also need to make sure his camps are destroyed, and that the country that housed him gets to send most of its leaders to Allah as well, as a notice from the US that any who aid our enemies will be treated as such.
11 posted on 09/13/2001 7:11:40 AM PDT by Kozak
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