[livius]

Thanks, Fury. The odd thing is that liberals and paleos seem to agree on the isolationist thing. All day I've been hearing whining liberal voices saying, "but, oh, you can see why the poor things are justified in being so mad at the big mean nasty US." No, I can't see why they're justified in any way. What I see are a bunch of crazed Islamic fundamentalists who see us as the symbolic and real leader of a way of life that is diametrically opposed to theirs, and will do anything to strike at us. By our very existence, in many ways, we must be an Empire; there's no way for freedom to be a local option. An isolationist Republic would last about 15 minutes against the big totalitarian-filled world.

[Zviadist]

the big totalitarian-filled world.

Dude, you need to get out once in a while. Who's the one with his head in the sand? A "big totalitarian-filled world"? You want to go to war with the world? OK fine, you go first. The rest of us are patriots who actually believe in the rule of law and justice. THAT is what made America great, not its ability to kick everyone's ass around the world. It is amazing how quickly you and your neocon buddies are to turn your back on our basic national values.

[sheltonmac]

"The odd thing is that liberals and paleos seem to agree on the isolationist thing."

Wrong. Liberals are anything but isonlationists. Look at Clinton's military endeavors. They believe we can spread good will throughout the world by sending our military on socialist humanitarian missions. Liberals were all behind the bombing of Serbia, remember.