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It Happened Here
A Different Drummer ^ | 13 May 2001 | Nicholas Stix

Posted on 09/12/2001 2:43:23 AM PDT by mrustow

Article discusses the fate of World Trade Center, focusing on the reporters covering the attack, the firemen who sought to save the victims, and who in the process themselves became victims, and on whether George Bush has the resolve to do what must be done.


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To: skeeter
Sometimes justice has to be administrated via war.
61 posted on 09/12/2001 7:56:44 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: skeeter
If only we could get these terrorists to do something useful, like blowing up State!

Where have you gone, Colin Pow-w-ell?...

62 posted on 09/12/2001 9:20:20 PM PDT by mrustow
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Unfortunately, that is true.
63 posted on 09/12/2001 10:51:37 PM PDT by mrustow
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To: In mourning for six years, AmishDude
fyi
64 posted on 09/12/2001 11:35:07 PM PDT by mrustow
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To: NativeNewYorker
camel-humping cowards.

Sheesh. First ragheads, then sand fleas, now this. When will you people learn?

The correct term is rug pilots.

65 posted on 09/13/2001 1:01:29 AM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: Dan de Quille
FYI
66 posted on 09/13/2001 1:17:43 AM PDT by mrustow
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To: IRtorqued, Tom_Busch
fyi
67 posted on 09/13/2001 1:19:17 AM PDT by mrustow
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To: SKYDRIFTER
re:post 51

While I admit to an agenda, one thing that I don't hear much of on FR and not at all in the traditional media is that all of the passengers on the aircraft were disarmed sheep being led to the slaughter. Just think about whqt might have been prevented if one or more of the passengers were armed with a gun.

I feel that it needs to be put right into the face of Sara Brady and her kind that they have the blood of every single one of these victims on their hands. If I get the chance, I will.

68 posted on 09/13/2001 2:23:56 AM PDT by wcbtinman
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To: wcbtinman
Even if there were a permissive policy on passenger gun carrying on commercial aircraft, you couldn't necessarily count on a citizen having one there when needed. What's needed IMHO is to arm the pilots and beef up the cockpit doors.
69 posted on 09/13/2001 2:49:21 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: mrustow
We just heard on the radio, that Arabs, er Arab Americans, were out on the streets of Paterson, New Jersey, cheering on the terrorists.

Here we have the real "Universal Nation"...

70 posted on 09/13/2001 3:31:10 AM PDT by Dan De Quille
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To: HiTech RedNeck
A good idea. Just what is so strange about having at least one member of the cabin crew "riding shotgun"? The Libs would freak, of course, but who cares?
71 posted on 09/13/2001 3:34:58 AM PDT by Dan De Quille
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To: mrustow
Thanks for the flag. Great article.
72 posted on 09/13/2001 3:55:33 AM PDT by RottiBiz
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To: mrustow
I don’t think George Bush or any President will be able to do much about this. What we have witnessed is a total failure of our government officials to protect us from terrorist attacks.

After the first plane hit the WTC, the TV networks were able to get their news helicopter in the air within 5 to 10 minutes, so that the second plane crash was on live TV, but I never did see any military aircraft flying over New York until much later that day.

Out here where I live in New Mexico, we have several major power plants that supply electricity to many Western states, and there was never any military response to protect the power plants. They are still wide open to air and truck bomb attacks right now.

We are on our own, folks. The politicians are just giving speeches and that’s all they are equipped to do. It made me sick to see so many of them say we are going to “get even” for these attacks. Well, hell, it’s too late. We hire these jerks to help protect us. We pay a lot of taxes so our military can guard and protect us. And all of the bureaucrats and military leaders have failed us.

This is another Pear Harbor all over again. Lots of military people, but no one on alert. No one prepared to react immediately to the first attack. Too many military bureaucrats at the water coolers at the Pentagon, so that they couldn’t even protect the Pentagon from attack.

And now Bush is asking for more money? More money for what? More money for the hiring of more bureaucrats?

I would prefer to be guarded by the brave firemen and policemen of New York City than by all the federal bureaucrats in the entire country. To hell with the federal bureaucrats.

73 posted on 09/13/2001 5:25:09 AM PDT by Fred25
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To: mrustow
the reporters covering the attack, the firemen who sought to save the victims, and who in the process themselves became victims, and on whether George Bush has the resolve to do what must be done.

The reporters covering the attack are mostly slime. The firefighters are heroes. George Bush is lacking the resolve needed to answer any terrorists.

74 posted on 09/13/2001 5:52:15 AM PDT by SiliconValleyGuy
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To: OldFriend
thanks for the prayer....just reported that Rudy asked the government for 6,000 body bags......dear g-d......

Giuliani just said that 3,900 are missing, in addition to the 89 corpses that have been brought out.

75 posted on 09/13/2001 8:15:14 AM PDT by mrustow
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother Verginius Rufus Harrison Bergeron pittsburgh gop guy T.P. Pole Octar
FYI
76 posted on 09/13/2001 8:18:59 AM PDT by mrustow
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother Verginius Rufus Harrison Bergeron pittsburgh gop guy T.P. Pole Octar
FYI
77 posted on 09/13/2001 8:21:16 AM PDT by mrustow
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To: mrustow
We just heard on the radio, that Arabs, er Arab Americans, were out on the streets of Paterson, New Jersey, cheering on the terrorists.

Where did you hear this? Was it a talk-show caller making speculation? Was it a news report? I would have SERIOUS doubts about any report of Arabs (or Arab-Americans) celebrating in the streets of ANY American city.

78 posted on 09/13/2001 8:32:18 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: mrustow
If you live in or around New York City, as I do, you are painfully aware that “It happened Here”. There is almost a certainty you personally knew someone or a family that had a relative in one of the Twin Towers. I've spent most of the last 2 days with a neighbor whose son-in-law was on the 102 floor of the first tower hit. Two days later all they know is someone working in an adjoining building for the same firm (Cantor and Fitzgerald) called immediately after impact and spoke directly to their son-in-law. He was fine and seem to realize exactly what had happened and was going to leave immediately. Cantor and Fitzgerald occupied several of the floors from 102 on up. Over a 1000 employees. As far as we know not a single Cantor and Fitzgerald employee made it out of the building. Of course it isn't that simple. We have been tracing down rumors that his boss and others supposedly made it out and were in critical condition in a New Jersey hospital. None of the rumors have proven to be more than a momentary wisp of hope that have now all but disappeared.

The impact and destruction hasn't been completely understood yet. In the case of my neighbor's son-in-law alone, he has in all probability died leaving behind a 2 year old set of twins and a wife who is 8 months pregnant. This is going to be so horrific that when the final casualty lists are published Americans are finally going to understand that wherever you live, whatever you do for a living an enemy has just told you in the most dramatic way possible that they see no distinction between American citizens an members of the armed forces of the U.S.

79 posted on 09/13/2001 8:38:56 AM PDT by hflynn
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To: VRWCmember
We just heard on the radio, that Arabs, er Arab Americans, were out on the streets of Paterson, New Jersey, cheering on the terrorists.

Where did you hear this? Was it a talk-show caller making speculation? Was it a news report? I would have SERIOUS doubts about any report of Arabs (or Arab-Americans) celebrating in the streets of ANY American city.

It couldn't be speculation; either it was a truthful statement or it was a lie. Yes, it was a caller from Paterson. It couldn't be a news report, because all of the local newscasts have giving pro-Arab immigrant spin since the attacks started. At this point, the mainstream news organizations will not report any stories showing local Arabs in a negative light.

I used to work in Paterson several years ago, and it was known to be opne of the meanest cities in America (sometimes ranked thus on the "worst cities in America" list), but I did not know that it has a sizable Arab population. I am more familiar with Jersey City, N.J., which has long had a large Arab population. In 1993, Sheik Abdul Rahman organized the WTC bombing from his mosque, the truck was rented from the Ryder Truck Rental on Kennedy Blvd., and many local Moslems supported the bombing.

How do I know that? No, they didn't dance in the streets. Rather, one of my Arab students disappeared from class for two or three weeks. When he returned, he challenged me, "You believe that? You believe that happened?" I asked him if he were saying that the bombing was a hoax. He smiled. I asked him, if he thought that some huge conspiracy of local, state, regional (Port Authority) and federal law enforcement, and local and national, print, TV, and radio media had foisted a hoax on the American public. He nodded.

An Arabic-speaking African student related a story in which a man in an Arab shop told a third man not to talk to the African, because he "has no morals. This man has no God," because the African was not a Moslem.

80 posted on 09/13/2001 9:01:50 AM PDT by mrustow
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