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It Happened Here
A Different Drummer ^ | 13 May 2001 | Nicholas Stix

Posted on 09/12/2001 2:43:23 AM PDT by mrustow

Article discusses the fate of World Trade Center, focusing on the reporters covering the attack, the firemen who sought to save the victims, and who in the process themselves became victims, and on whether George Bush has the resolve to do what must be done.


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To: mrustow
Thanks for the flag friend!

Australia is holding it's breath waiting to see how America will respond...waiting to cheer them on!....unfortunately a lot of Aussies are also acting like a spooked herd....throwing rocks at a school bus full of muslim kids....ringing up talk-back radio stations and sometimes sounding almost as bad as those who hate America....and many are ranting about how Israel "invaded" Palestine...as if the horror inflicted on America had any justification!...too many people DON'T think.

A lot of us over here are seeing red with anger over what has been done to you fine people...as I watched I couldn't help wonder how many Freepers went down with the buildings....none I hope!I've grown very fond of Americans since I became a freeper.

In a way I feel sorry for Dubya,he sure has inherited some mess,some legacy!...it's not easy sitting in front of the TV watching Bill hog the cameras whilst wondering how much of his carrying on empowered those who did this.

May God bless America.

God bless and thanks again for the flag.

121 posted on 09/13/2001 10:43:13 PM PDT by mitch5501 (Jesus is Lord)
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To: mitch5501
Thanks for your blessings, Mitch. May God bless you, too, I pray from the foxhole here.
122 posted on 09/13/2001 10:51:01 PM PDT by mrustow
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fyi
123 posted on 09/13/2001 11:24:52 PM PDT by mrustow
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To: HiTech RedNeck
You must be a shark...er lawyer.

If the terrorist tries to overpower me and is intent on sacrificing the aircraft and all of it's passengers, I'll gladly accept any liability for shooting the bastard.

As to point #2, I'll reluctantly trust our govt to take care of the larger problem as is it's enumerated duty under the Constitution. Let me handle the immediate threat, to me, in an aircraft.

As to point #3, the pilot and co-pilot are there to fly the damm plane. That's what I want them concentrating on. If the passengers are armed, that's what the crew will be allowed to do.

You seem to think that us regular ol'e citizens are incapable of defending ourselves, and must rely on some form of law enforcement. That is total BS. It should be obvious by now that the govt is almost totally incapable of preventing anything. For decades I have relied on an incompetent govt to be an abject failure at doing anything until after the fact, and I say it's time to go back to what worked in the past. Each of us must be responsible and allowed to protect ourselves.

124 posted on 09/14/2001 4:27:53 AM PDT by wcbtinman
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To: mrustow
The contempt for Israel is so strong, that a group of American anti-Semites, calling themselves "Christians," has decided to go to Israel and act as "human shields" to protect Arab Nazis against Jewish police and troops.

True Christians are the best friends the Jews have. I am a Christian and I love the Jewish people, because I know exactly what the fight is about -- and has been about since time immemorial. Any person who would call themselves "Christians" and act as human shields to protect Arabs deserve all the misery that will be coming to them someday.

125 posted on 09/14/2001 7:53:07 AM PDT by swampfox98
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To: swampfox98
True Christians are the best friends the Jews have.

At this point, Christian evangelicals are more reliable friends than many Jewish groups. I suspect that pro-PLO group whose members call themselves "Christians" is really a Marxist front.

126 posted on 09/14/2001 9:32:55 AM PDT by mrustow
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FYI
127 posted on 09/14/2001 9:34:30 AM PDT by mrustow
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To: SKYDRIFTER
I'm all for carpet-bombing a few terrorist camps,

Oh it's going to be more than a few. If I read the signals rightly it's war on terrorISM not just the monsters who did this. it will start soon and it will take a long time to win, as win we must. This scourge must be wiped from the face of the earth, or no one is safe.

128 posted on 09/14/2001 9:59:09 AM PDT by Valin
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To: Fred25
Nice to have you back.
131 posted on 09/14/2001 11:07:10 AM PDT by Texaggie79
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To: OldFriend
The last figure I heard for the missing was 4,763.
132 posted on 09/14/2001 12:37:02 PM PDT by mrustow
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To: wcbtinman
You must be a shark...er lawyer.

I would gladly wish sharks away. But that won't make them go away, nor the laws that they seek to enforce.

If the terrorist tries to overpower me and is intent on sacrificing the aircraft and all of it's passengers, I'll gladly accept any liability for shooting the bastard.

Trouble is, we still don't KNOW whether the hijacker is intent on wrecking the craft. The hijackers in Sept 11 lied and promised to land the craft safely.

No, if there is going to be a do-it-yourself firefight aboard an aircraft (probably just the passenger if the security system is worth a hoot, as it did screen out guns on Sept 11) the passenger had darn well be sure that the hijacker really means to crash the craft as the risk of breaching the hull is too great. That task I gladly and unashamedly would rather see assigned to sky marshals or at MOST passengers SPECIALLY licensed, trained, and tested. As for on the ground, I am with you as that there should be no gun restrictions whatsoever except for the insane or contemporary with punishment for a crime.

133 posted on 09/14/2001 2:21:31 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: wcbtinman
For decades I have relied on an incompetent govt to be an abject failure at doing anything until after the fact,

I want you to provide me with the list of menaces the government has caught before they could menace further. Then say what you said to me again with a straight face.

Some time ago, FReepers were complaining about a "Star Chamber" like system -- judges accountable to almost nobody, operating anonymously -- which the Federal Government has for anti terrorist actions. Maybe you were among the complainers! Now you know why such a system exists.

134 posted on 09/14/2001 2:26:40 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: HiTech RedNeck, wcbtinman
There are several types of weapons which could be used by crews to subdue hijackers, short of firearms: mace, tear gas, nightsticks, the telescoping steel batons the Japanese police use, etc. Cockpit cabin doors are going to be made out of heavier steel, and pilots are likely going to be outfitted with closed circuit TV systems, so they don't fall into the traps that were set for them this time. They also might be issued small caliber weapons (.22s?), if it can be determined that they would not de-pressurize the cabin.
135 posted on 09/14/2001 3:16:05 PM PDT by mrustow
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Sen. John Kerry said on Larry King last night, "Ultimately we don't want to be a terrorist ourselves."

I agree. On the other hand, Senator Kerry, why don't you try whining that to the people on the 110th floor...

136 posted on 09/14/2001 8:18:43 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Sen. Byron Dorgan used his time on the Senate floor this morn. to call for a reduction of our nuclear stockpile, claiming that the WTC bombing should be a lesson.

I AGREE. LET'S SPREAD THE GOOD NEWS TO THOSE PEOPLE ON THE 110TH FLOOR! </SARCASM>

137 posted on 09/14/2001 8:20:25 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
I just want to slap Hillary today.

Go right ahead.

138 posted on 09/14/2001 8:21:40 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: NativeNewYorker
Now I want it rebuilt as the biggest freepin' statement of freedom in the world.

One massive structure, 200 stories high, with antiaircraft guns on the roof and every physical plant floor! Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah!!!

139 posted on 09/14/2001 8:25:28 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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