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Hijacked pilots may have been murdered before crashes
Electronic Telegraph ^ | September 11, 2001

Posted on 09/11/2001 5:15:20 PM PDT by Map Kernow

THE pilots of the four hijacked aircraft were probably murdered before their planes were diverted on their devastating suicide missions, terrorism experts speculated.

No fewer than 30 highly-trained renegades - some 'graduates' of a secret school of terrorism - would have been involved in the extraordinarily well synchronised series of deadly attacks.

As experts pieced together their audacious operation, it was clear that no pilot would have steered their plane into a building packed with people.

Instead, it is possible they were shot dead in the cockpit and their seats taken by terrorists with at least a rudimentary ability to manoeuvre the jets into their devastating suicide flight paths.

But there was also speculation the pilots realised the full horror of what was going to happen and tried to do something to stop it. This might explain why the United Airlines plane from Newark crashed into a wood in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, rather than a city landmark.

Either way, experts were agog at how four planes were able to be hijacked at the same time.

Details of an operation that was as technically outstanding as it was horrific will no doubt emerge in the coming days.

Mike Yardley, a terrorism expert and former army officer, said: "This is a stunning security and intelligence failure. In both those spheres, major errors have evidently occurred. Heads should roll.

"One could have conceived of one or even a couple of planes being hijacked, but to coordinate the hijack of four or more is absolutely extraordinary.

"Intelligence agencies should have picked up some warning."

The terrorists' operation could have been years in the planning and would have almost certainly involved cooperation from men on the ground.

Hijack expert Dr John Potter said the suicide hijackers could have attended a secret school of hijack training.

"It is quite possible that those involved were graduates of that training school, wherever it might be. There is a suspicion it exists somewhere," he said.

Those involved on the ground may have been airport staff who were 'sleepers' - terrorists prepared to bide their time before striking.

"People might have infiltrated into aviation systems years ago and then merely waited to ensure that all the attacks worked," said Kieran Daly, editor of the Air Transport Intelligence Internet news service.

Modern weapons made from materials other than plastic may also have been used to avoid detection at airport terminals.

And the fact that all the hijacked planes were domestic flights made it easier for the terrorists, who would have struggled to hijack an international airliner.


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To: Map Kernow
Darn, this thing was sophisticated when you look at the number of things that had to go right and did.

Wonder who did it. There aren't many outfits this good, and not usually third world fanatics. Much slicker than a truck bomb.

And yes, looking around any airport will quickly convince you that lots of people with access to the airplane never had a background check.

81 posted on 09/11/2001 7:54:45 PM PDT by pttttt
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To: Map Kernow
I understand a stew on one of the planes was locked in a lavatory. She had a cell phone, and she made one phone call. She said that the other crew members had been killed.
82 posted on 09/11/2001 8:36:12 PM PDT by Don Myers
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To: Map Kernow
It is impossible to stop terrorists! There will always be more.
83 posted on 09/11/2001 8:42:47 PM PDT by Blake#1
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To: pttttt
My thoughts exactly. This is too sophisticated for Osama Ben Laden without major help from whom?

Iraq/Iran/China/Russia?

The fact that President Bush and his team are fighting not only the enemies of this nation from without - but also the TRAITOROUS CLINTONISTAS FROM WITHIN - makes this time so much more difficult than it is even now! Please, President Bush, DO NOT ASSUME that people offering you help are sincere. Some of them are probably working to destroy you....perhaps even in conjunction with these "terrorists". All suspected enemies of this country should be rounded up and held incommunicado - including Hitlery and Bubba Clinton and their "lieutenants".

84 posted on 09/11/2001 8:44:21 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: tbeatty
"The answer to this is to arm pilots with guns."

tb, do you really mean that or are you just saying that to agree with me for once and to give me a smile on an otherwise bad day? LOL

May God bless all those who suffered a loss today.

85 posted on 09/11/2001 8:44:33 PM PDT by Badray
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To: Blake#1
It is impossible to stop terrorists! There will always be more.

That is why we need to start doing them in, and keep doing them in with regularity. They DO understand the use of force.

86 posted on 09/11/2001 8:47:08 PM PDT by Mark17
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To: Blake#1
It is impossible to stop terrorists! There will always be more.

There will be more if we leave them alive, we need to go after them big time, not just a half-hearted effort. We need to get anyone who is on their side even if they aren't directly involved.

87 posted on 09/11/2001 8:57:05 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: OldFashionedAmerican
This better be the LAST unopposed skyjacking in an American jet. If this should ever happen in the future, EVERY passenger should rush the terrorists with the rememberance of New York City and Washington in their minds, and with those images, find the determination to either stop the terrorits, or at least, in the fashion of true Patriots, die in the attempt to protect out freedoms and our fellow countrymen.

You put into words exactly what I was thinking.

88 posted on 09/11/2001 9:19:02 PM PDT by fso301
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To: libsrscum
Perhaps we need a new pre-fight message on all US flights: "In case of hyjacking, all passengers are requested to rush the hyjackers and beat them to a pulp with extreme prejudice."

I'd like to add that having beaten the hijackers to a pulp but before they expire, the hijackers should then be smeared with pork fat.

89 posted on 09/11/2001 9:25:39 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
Cletus, I had the same thought. However, there are two, not just one of which you spoke. Bessie and the other one on Lk. Erie. As I am closer to "the other one" I found myself thanking God that the plane crashed in PA. Although, Ashcroft said the plane was heading for Washington I see the plants to be it.
90 posted on 09/11/2001 9:30:30 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Map Kernow
FBI is executing search warrants in South Florida and Daytona Beach. Given that there just aren't many Moslems in Florida due to the high concentration of Jews there, could this be home-grown, just like Oklahoma City? Could this be due to the recent major rift in the Cuban-American National Foundation, in which the hard-liners left the organization, or is this an "anti-Global" thing?
91 posted on 09/11/2001 9:36:47 PM PDT by FairAndBalanced (But, WHICH terrorists)
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To: Map Kernow
Here's how easy it is (or could have been for me) to sneak a weapon through security: Recently went to Atlanta to pick up a baby parrot. For return flight, baby parrot (with BIG beak) is in the standard pet carrier that fits under the seat. I get to xray machines, but don't want to put parrot in carrier on the conveyor, nor can I take her out because of the BIG BEAK. So rather than have me walk through with carrier in hand, they take the carrier and put it on a counter. I walk through the xray and pick up the carrier on the other side. All while the girls working there oohed and ahhhed over the parrot. The carrier NEVER went through any kind of examination. There could have been grenades, pistols, broken down AK-47, whatever under the towel in the carrier. I just shook my head as I walked down to my gate.
92 posted on 09/11/2001 9:43:01 PM PDT by Dasaji
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To: OldFashionedAmerican
I would hope that, should a similar scenario ever play out in the future, that KNIVES would not stop passengers from taking action. After this, I really think that there would be at least a percentage of the passengers that would say to themselves, 'I'm liable to die anyway, why not at least TRY to stop these b*stards and prevent another New York??'

How the hell do you KNOW what happened on board those flights? How the hell do you or anyone else at this point KNOW that no one on those flights had the "cojones" that you do?

YOU DON'T!!!

Enough of this "Rambo" stuff, please!! Show some respect.

95 posted on 09/12/2001 11:18:33 AM PDT by Map Kernow
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