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"Accidental President"?
MSNBC | 9.10.01 | Dave Craplan

Posted on 09/10/2001 1:19:08 PM PDT by meandog

The ‘Accidental President’

Exclusive excerpt: The vote in Bush v. Gore was arrived at in secret conference. But this one determined who would be president. We didn’t know just how close it was—until now. NEWSWEEK’s David A. Kaplan goes behind the scenes

NEWSWEEK
Sept. 17 issue — As both campaigns and the entire country awaited the U.S. Supreme Court ruling in Bush v. Gore, the vice president couldn’t sit still. The vote would decide who’d win Election 2000. The process kept starting and stopping. Now, Gore needed to vent his emotions, with whatever degree of optimism he could muster.

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Most folks who know me on this site know I'm no fan of Dubyah...but this so-called expose' is a patent piece of garbage! Only line worth anything was the "real" Albore when he expressed his true sentiments about one of the branches of government: "F' the SC"... he said!
1 posted on 09/10/2001 1:19:08 PM PDT by meandog
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To: meandog
What utter nonsense. If the US SC had allowed the FL SC to violate the Florida state constitution and to stage a fullscale recount, the FL legistature would have acted instantly to certify the delegates (that was the only reason they were in session) and Bush would still have won. QED.
2 posted on 09/10/2001 1:26:57 PM PDT by balrog666
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To: meandog
Yawn....haven't the Marxists gotten over their loss yet?
3 posted on 09/10/2001 1:28:54 PM PDT by TheDon
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The only accident is that the Dems didn't perpetrate quite enough vote fraud.
4 posted on 09/10/2001 1:39:42 PM PDT by ICU812
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To: meandog
You only need to read a few paragraphs to see what a piece of garbage this is... The decision was 7-2, not 5-4 as the liberals love to remind everyone... 7-2 on the Equal Protection issue, 5-4 on the SCOFLA vacation... They just can't seem to remember that the big decsion was NOT that divided!!

Of couse, Liberals have perfected the arts of history revison and selective memory...

5 posted on 09/10/2001 1:40:14 PM PDT by vrwinger
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To: meandog
Of course it is garbage. The vote was STILL 7-2 that what the Floriduh SC was doing was UNCONSTITUTIONAL. The 5-4 vote was about what the remedy shoud be.

If you think the last election was bad for voting fraud, just wait until 2002 and 2004. The DemoNAZIS will make the third world ballot stuffers look like choir boys. They will stop at nothing to steal the WH and the House of Representatives.

6 posted on 09/10/2001 1:53:31 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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To: meandog
P.S. The only accident was how on the estimate on much voter fraud would be necessary to win Floriduh.
7 posted on 09/10/2001 1:54:35 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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To: meandog
David A. Kaplan was chatting with the Perky Katie Couric this AM. As the spittle was flying between these two morons I suddenly realized that the bathroom TV was on NBC. But before I changed the channel I noticed the cover to this guys book. It looks like a cross between one of Matthew Lesko's manuals on getting money out of the gov't and the cover to the Beatle's Yellow Submarine album.

Katie Couric, koolaide drinker on krak.....

8 posted on 09/10/2001 1:59:53 PM PDT by isthisnickcool
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To: isthisnickcool
Souter is an "accidental supreme court justice." He got in by pretending to be a Republican not a Rastafarian. He is also a sorry exhibit for that court insofaras he is shooting off his mouth about deliberations, and so forth which traditionally have remained confidential. He needs a vacation down in the shark-infested waters of the lower East Coast to clarify his thinking. Most men on the courts wear black dresses because it dates back to earlier times. I think Souter is a black dress man from the get-go. He probably wears women's undergarments and shaves his armpits.
9 posted on 09/10/2001 2:12:07 PM PDT by mathurine
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To: mathurine
He probably wears women's undergarments and shaves his armpits

LOL!

I imagine Dick Gephardt in a similiar outfit (When he is not taking "Nair" baths with Gary Condit, a man of integrity). I see little Dick in a red bra, panties and garters. Under his SS uniform, of course.

10 posted on 09/10/2001 2:22:20 PM PDT by isthisnickcool
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To: meandog
NEWSWEAK...NOT ONLY LIVING IN THE PAST, BUT A FANTASY PAST
11 posted on 09/10/2001 2:28:52 PM PDT by metacognate
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To: meandog
This has been posted a few times already (with lots of comments that might interest you).

"The 'Accidental President'"

And "The Accidental President"- Join Newsweek Senior Writer and author David A. Kaplan on for a Live Tal..."

The second thread includes some info about the author doing an online discussion on this Wednesday. He should be Freeped

There's no coincidence that these divisive stories are coming out now. There are 5 stories in Newsweek (and on the MSNBC site) about this. There's also Reno's announcement in Florida which will fan the flames. The DemocRATS and their presstitutes want to distract the President and the Republicans from the appropriations bills and from the business of the country.

They're also hoping that Bush will break his promise not to spend the Social Security surplus.

The Republicans in the House ought to honor that pledge and not put Bush in a position where he has to use a veto to honor his promise. This is an opportunity for the Conservatives to cut wasteful spending to "save Social Security." When it comes to a vote and no DemocRAT supports spending cuts, the Republicans will be able to say "Not one Democrat voted to protect your retirement funds in Social Security." It'll completely take away the Social Security issue for the Dems. The alternative will be for the Dems to support the spending cuts to preserve the Social Security surplus.

I'm tired of hearing pundits, even conservative pundits, suggesting that Bush should let any of the Social Security surplus be spent. If he does, it'll be worse than Bush Sr. and "Read my lips." Not only is he breaking a very popular campaign promise, but he's "endangering" social security at the same time.

Note, I'm not certain that preserving the "Social Security surplus" is necessarily good, especially in an economic slowdown. However, the time to consider that option was before Bush made the promises last year during his campaign and during the debates. If he backs of now, it'll be just as bad as "Read my lips" and "a tax cut for middle class Americans." I'm still not sure how Clinton got away with breaking that one. Bush won't get away with breaking the Social Security promise. He and the Republicans will lose big if they spend any Social Security $$$.

12 posted on 09/10/2001 3:01:04 PM PDT by cc2k
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To: meandog
This stuff really turns you pale when you read it. The outlandish claim that the SCOTUS "gave" Bush the presidency is absurd, the implicit message in this story is that Gore would have won if not for those meddling kids on the SC. Not true. A whole series of events had to transpire for Gore to come out on top, all of them extraordinarily unlikely and unlawful to boot.

Here's a good place to detect the bias presented in this story. Read the paragraphs about Souter's personality then read the descriptions of Kennedy's personality. This is all stuff that is highly objective and is not straight factual reporting but is done to "paint a picture." All of the descriptions of Souter portray him as a circumspect man of character while Kennedy is portrayed as your crazy drunk uncle at the family reunion.

This kind of writing just rattles my teeth it's so over the top. But they pay his dingle berry to write this stuff and people still buy the rag he works for. Grrr!

13 posted on 09/10/2001 3:06:33 PM PDT by BigTime
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To: isthisnickcool
It looks like a cross between one of Matthew Lesko's manuals on getting money out of the gov't and the cover to the Beatle's Yellow Submarine album.

That Lesko commercial always cracks me up. I notice it is on late at night or early in the AM.

14 posted on 09/10/2001 3:08:30 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: meandog
The Miami Herald did a re re count and found that Bush still won.
15 posted on 09/10/2001 3:18:41 PM PDT by staytrue
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The Republican response to the Commission on Civil Rights Report is very well done, but the press chooses to report on the Dem. allegations rather than the facts. A few highlights:

Whose Fault Was It? How Party Affiliations of Supervisors of Elections Affected the Rate of Ballot Spoilage
The majority report charges "disfranchisement" and lays the blame at the feet of state officials — particularly Governor Jeb Bush and Secretary of State Kathryn Harris. In fact, however, elections in Florida are the responsibility of 67 county supervisors of elections. And, interestingly, in all but one of the 25 counties with the highest spoilage rates, the election was supervised by a Democrat — the one exception being an official with no party affiliation.

Dr. Lott added another variable to the mix: the race of the election supervisor. His analysis reveals that having Democratic officials in charge increases the ballot spoilage rate substantially, but the effect is even stronger when that Democratic official is African American. Obviously no Democratic officials were out to disfranchise black voters, and the correlation points once again to the limitations of ecological regressions.

... The majority report speaks repeatedly of the alleged "exclusion" and "disenfranchisement" of "minorities" or "people of color." One section is headed "Votes in Communities of Color Less Likely to be Counted." But what information are we actually given about all those "communities of color"? We were amazed and disturbed to find that the crucial statistical analysis provided in Chapter 1 is narrowly focused on just one of the state's "communities of color" — African Americans. The discussion completely ignores Florida's largest minority group — people of Hispanic origin.

This is revealing of the Commission's constricted vision. The 2000 Census counted 2.3 million African Americans in Florida, approximately 15 percent of the total population. But the state had 2.7 million Latinos, almost 17 percent of its population. Astonishingly, Hispanics hardly get a mention in the majority report. How many Cuban-Americans in Miami cast ballots that were "rejected"?

...Based on witnesses' limited (and often, uncorroborated) accounts, the Commission insists that there were "countless allegations" involving "countless numbers" of Floridians who were denied the right to vote. This anecdotal evidence is drawn from the testimony of 26 "fact witnesses," residing in only eight of the state's 67 counties.

In fact, however, many of those who appeared before the Commission testified to the absence of "systemic disenfranchisement" in Florida. ...

When this report was presented to the Commission on June 8, Chair Berry stated that "we don't need evidence" to prove the charges of disfranchisement and discrimination.

...Based on extensive research, the Miami Herald concluded that the biggest problem with the felon list was not that it wrongly prevented eligible voters from casting ballots, but that it ended up allowing ineligible voters to cast a ballot.

In pursuing its attack on the purge list, the Commission completely ignored the bigger story: Approximately 5,600 felons voted illegally in Florida on November 7, approximately 68 percent of whom were registered Democrats. On June 8, General Counsel Hailes was asked why the report failed to address the issue of ineligible voters who cast ballots on election day. His response was: "That's not part of the scope of our report."

... There is also the additional question of voter fraud. On June 8, the Chair explained that the report did not look at the issue of voter fraud, since "fraud does not appear to be a major factor in the Florida election," and that, in any event, this was "beyond the scope" of the Commission's investigation. Thus, the report single-mindedly pursues only one kind of vote dilution (allegations that eligible voters were denied the tight to vote) while completely ignoring the other (allegations that ineligible voters were allowed to vote).
Facts: Republicans did not "disenfranchise" black voters. Fact: Mainstream press is ignoring evidence of Dem. fraud.


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16 posted on 09/10/2001 3:35:20 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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Hey didn't Daschell himself admit that there is no Social Security trust fund ?

Liberals forget so easily .

Oh well . Noone seems to care that would matter up there on the all mighty hill .

17 posted on 09/10/2001 3:45:45 PM PDT by AmericanCheeseFood
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To: balrog666
And haven't there already been umpteen counts which show that, even in the unconstitutional SCOFLA order had stood, Bush would have won anyway? These guys need to go suck their thumbs.
18 posted on 09/10/2001 3:48:54 PM PDT by soccermom
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To: meandog
This isn't even good propaganda - from the comic book cover to the claim that Supreme Court justices confided secrets from their conference to Russian judges and high school kids?? As has been said, the decision was 7-2. History will look at the credible sources, like the opinions Kennedy, Breyer and the others wrote, as well as the transcripts from the oral argument, and not unattributed-source hack journalism like this. The equal protection argument is a particular pet peeve of mine. Sure conservatives continue to criticize Baker v. Carr, but it's been the law of the land a long time. This Supreme Court has taken several recent equal protection voting cases, mostly in the minority-majority district (gerrymander) area. The idea that conservative (or liberal for that matter) justices would view a case concerning claims of violation of the equal protection clause in voting in the federal election for President, the highest office under the Constitution, not suitable for review by the federal courts is just stupid. The ruling that identical ballots for President cast in the same election in the same state should be tabulated by the same standards in all counties in that state is just a no brainer. And the pundits and law professors who think that a state that would tabulate identical Presidential ballots different ways in different counties is not violating the equal protection clause are just stupidly partisan. It's like the law professors who testified before Congress that perjury and obstruction of justice are not impeachable offenses, an argument that would get a law student flunked in another context, because their politics overwhelmed their academic integrity. The "Gore really won the recount" argument has been exposed as a lie, so now we're back to "the Supreme Court shouldn't have intervened" and allowed the Florida Supreme Court to overrule its own Florida judges and hijack the election for Gore. I think the libs are risking a blowback by keeping this nonsense up. Anyone think they'll succeed in creating an urban myth here?
19 posted on 09/10/2001 3:52:09 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: ICU812
The only accident is that the Dems didn't perpetrate quite enough vote fraud.

They won't make the same mistake twice... I hope the election reform effort helps us(if there is one).

20 posted on 09/10/2001 3:58:26 PM PDT by bigjoesaddle
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