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This Band Of Brothers Premiers Tonight...Will It Tell The Truth?
My own & HBO | 9-10-01 | timydnuc

Posted on 09/09/2001 5:56:55 PM PDT by timydnuc

Tonight they will premire a progam that my father lived and fought through. I heard the stories, I knew the man. I wonder if they will give him the respect that he, and his buddies, so richly deserve. I doubt it, but I'll reserve judgemant until I see the presentation.

My father was one of those 101st Airborne landed behind the lines on D-day. He was one of those glorious troops that survived the whole war. He won 1 Purple Heart, and a Silver Star, with a cluster during that war. I was 101st Airborne in the Nam.

The show is about to come on...I need to go! What do you think?


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To: timydnuc
I don't know how realistic it was.. sounds like you would have more info on that than me... I don't even know any veterns. My question is this... how can someone like Tom Hanks and Speilberg make such freedom loving, American patriotic movies when they also defend Bill Clinton as he puts his hand on the bible and lies while president? This movie blew me away. I wanted to hug a vetern and say thank you.
21 posted on 09/09/2001 8:15:40 PM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross
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To: FreedomPoster
Check your history.

Check my post I said that Hanks said that - any US troops fighting in Belgium in 1942 would have to be tough and they would have been very lonely. D-Day was 6/6/44, in 1942 Belgium was chock full o' Germans.

22 posted on 09/09/2001 8:22:57 PM PDT by Mike Darancette
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To: doomtrooper99
He's also stated that he intends to digitally remove all guns from the hands of federal agents in next year's theatrical rerelease of E.T. Presumably, this will be the cut available on DVD. Presumably, I won't be owning E.T. on DVD.
23 posted on 09/09/2001 8:35:22 PM PDT by Rastus
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To: timydnuc
Thanks to you and your father! I know it may sound corny, but you guys are 'heros' in my eyes who were willing to make the ultimate sacrifice for this country.

Your type are in short supply now days, the time in which we need some heros in light of what's going on.

24 posted on 09/09/2001 8:40:57 PM PDT by TedTC
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To: timydnuc
Ah, missed it. I was watching the "Ponderosa" TV-movie prequel on PAX-TV. (which wasn't too bad)
25 posted on 09/09/2001 8:48:54 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith
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To: timydnuc
Much as I know how you all despise Salon.com, there is a good review of "BoB" here
26 posted on 09/09/2001 10:09:29 PM PDT by Blunderfromdownunder
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To: timydnuc
Not sure about the accuracy as my grandfathers would NEVER talk about WW2 (Europe or the Aleutians) but it looked very well done and I was amazed to see that it was a Steven Spielberg film. About the only reason that I could think of that Spielberg would make a film like this is that it would make a pile of money for him.

Unlike Pearl Harbor seemed like everyone smoked in the film so at least that was accurate.

27 posted on 09/09/2001 10:54:07 PM PDT by Centurion2000
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To: Mike Darancette
Oops - sorry for the misunderstanding. I guess Hanks had one of them publik skool edumacations.
28 posted on 09/10/2001 1:57:12 AM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: Centurion2000
There's a Band of Brothers special magazine on the newstands right now. Ambrose is the editor. One of Ambrose's sidekicks talks about their interview sessions with 101st vets, and how they got them to "open up" with two "outsiders".

It's not a bad little magazine, worth getting. It has a greenish-tinted photo on the cover of two geared-up paratroopers standing in front of a C-47, before loading up for Normandy.

29 posted on 09/10/2001 2:03:33 AM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: FreedomPoster
I watched the last half of the movie and it was like watching someone else playing a video game.They could have done much better than what they did.The photograpghy realy sucked even though I know it was intentional.
30 posted on 09/10/2001 2:15:25 AM PDT by eastforker
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To: timydnuc
I couldn't leave my chair. We've all seen historic overviews of what entire Divisions or Armys have done, but to show a factual view over what one company does in a war campagn. We all know what Patton and Bradly did but we don't know what Lt Winters and his company did and what they contributions were.

We could see the leadership wasn't always that great but the guys in the field made up for with their own resorces.

Truth? Well, so far so good. By the end, some truth will be lost throug ommision. Somethings will be made up to devlop charactors and story lines, but I don't expect any out and out crap. Two down eight to go.

31 posted on 09/10/2001 8:53:37 AM PDT by oyez
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To: timydnuc
When will this be available on DVD? I don't have HBO and would love to own a copy of the movie.
32 posted on 09/10/2001 3:38:30 PM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: Centurion2000
What kind of color film did they use? I noticed that it was sort of toned down. Actually I like that color they used. And the cinematography in general was great too.
33 posted on 09/10/2001 3:42:55 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: Swede Girl
The first thing I noticed was that they did not have airborne training haircuts. Their hair is much too long to be realistic for any military training.

Actually very short hair on military personnel only became big after about the mid 1950s if you look at photos of military men over the years. And especially after the 1960s, when hair length became a sort of political statement for a time, the military haircuts were especially short. If you look at WWII photos of Marines, many of them have remarkably long hair by today's military standards, including even many pompadours.

34 posted on 09/10/2001 3:48:38 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: Tanniker Smith
I caught the last hour of Ponderosa and enjoyed it.
35 posted on 09/10/2001 3:50:30 PM PDT by GreyFriar
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
"... When will this be available on DVD? I don't have HBO and would love to own a copy of the movie."

If previous HBO special DVD releases are a suitable track record to go by, then it'll show up 6 months to a year after release. Usually by about the same time that the HBO special has shown on HBO twice-through.

I own the 'From The Earth To The Moon' and 'The Sopranos: The First Season' sets on DVD. The second season of 'The Sopranos' is coming out within the month, I believe.

36 posted on 09/10/2001 3:58:41 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: Rastus
I'm with you. I find Ambrose most objectionable, however. So, I hope those watching enjoy it, but I won't be one of them.

Ambrose took a shot at John Wayne on CSPAN the other day - to paraphrase - for fighting the war from Hollywood while real men like George McGovern risked their lives in combat. Much like the criticism by the Left of the Gipper's war service.

I thought the putdown was unnecessary & given Wayne was such a conservative betrayed a snide liberalism I was disappointed to hear coming from Ambrose.

37 posted on 09/10/2001 3:59:10 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: PJ-Comix
"... If you look at WWII photos of Marines, many of them have remarkably long hair by today's military standards, including even many pompadours."

The general rule of thumb in the Marines is that if you're infantry, you style your haircut after whatever that your brigade commander wears. In WWII, the 'Sidewalls' haircut was considered the closest cut.

My commander had the damn scalp-close 'gravy boat' high-n-tight, that jerk.

38 posted on 09/10/2001 4:03:11 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: PJ-Comix
I am going to have to agree with you about the haircuts...I am sitting here right now, looking at a photo of my husbands dad, who was among the first to land at Normandy...he is at a military base, in his uniform...and his hair does look remarkably long by todays military standards....now that I think back to my dads military shots during WW11, his hair again is long by todays military standards...

My husband, who just recently retired from the military, said that during WW11, they did shave them rather close during basic training, but that afterwards, they did not seem to maintain that extra short haircut...

I watched 'Band of Brothers' last nite...one thing I noticed in particular, is that there were no big stars in this program....most of the faces of the actors, with the exception of about three, were totally unknown to me...I wonder if this was done on purpose, so as to convey the idea that these men were really soldiers, not 'movie stars'...Too often when big movie stars, those whose faces are easily recognizeable, are used, people tend to complain about those 'movie stars' political views, and that gets in the way of actually viewing the program on its own merit...

My husbands father, who was among the first to land at Normandy, was severely wounded both physically and mentally...almost all the men in his unit were killed or maimed, right in front of his eyes...he recovered from the physical wounds, but never from the mental wounds....he just could not stand what he saw...upon his return to USA, he was hospitalized for several years due to his mental state...he would never talk about those days, finding it way too difficult...about the only thing he ever said, was that it would have been better if he had died physically with his men...because he felt that his life was one slow act of dying, forever with the images of his fellow comrades being killed...some would say he was weak for this...I dont know what to say, except that he gave his best, in a cause he believed in....he died a few years ago, and I pray that his troubled spirit is at rest...God Bless you grandpa Carl...

39 posted on 09/10/2001 4:06:47 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: andysandmikesmom
Hair length sort of got entangled with political views during the 1960s. Also if you wore a beard back then you were assumed to be a liberal. So that had an effect on the military that has lasted until this day in their attitudes towards hair length even though it now means nothing in civilian life.
40 posted on 09/10/2001 4:17:36 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
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