Posted on 09/08/2001 6:54:24 PM PDT by Prism
Not at all what the intention of the post was. I have no serious expectation that anything will work. And when I drive illegally, I accept the risks/consequences of my actions.
I do not, however, accept that the law is right and I am wrong.
Many think this type of post is just such a cry-baby/militia rant.
I reserve the right to be indignant on the intellectual level, and also the right to not be called a hypocrite for avoiding lawful conflicts with beliefs on a practical level.
WHOOSH!....Right over my head.
I think I'll just wait for Windows XP and leave the programing to you!
BTW Please don't put my name and the name of any JBT's on the same Bump.
I'm kinda paticular about the company I keep
Stay Free
W1
Because, in essence, the Fed is now an 'occupational government', (and the states are accomplices). Now, seems I recall something along the lines of 'enemies, both foriegn and domestic'.
Amazing how much a flag on the wall can blind people.
I was upset as well reading about how the police did not have probable cause to pull her over and ask for "her papers". However it occurred to me ( until I read a portion of your post here now) that driving is a privilege, not a right. Here's how I found that out:
About 10 (almost 11) years ago, I was stopped and arrested for DUI (I live in Florida). BTW - that was the last time I ever did that. Anyway - I had to jump through many hoops to get my restricted license during pre-trial so that I could go to work. It was a royal nightmare. I discovered that there really are two entities involved in a situation like this - and I believe this applies in non DUI cases as well.
The first entity is what I call the judicial. This is the actual infraction (crime, if you will) of DUI. The criminal charge to which you are considered innocent until proven guilty. You get a lawyer, go to court and do the best you can with damage control.
The second entity is the administrative. This is the part that deals with trying to have your license re-instated. Here, you are generally percieved to be guilty until proven innocent. Many of the things I had to do to get my license back - classes, counselling, community service - were all facets of an actual sentence. And I did these before even getting to court.
Once I discovered the distinction between the two, I was able to separate them and deal with each as it's own entity - and things went better. However (and here is my point) it occurred to me that once you sign your name to the license, you have signed some of your rights away in exchange for the privelege of operating that vehicle on public roads.
I did't think it was fair at all, but then again driving was not a constitutionally guaranteed right either - at least not directly.
On another note - there are many people who do not have drivers licenses - they are usually residents of big cities where the mass transit system (and the exhorbitant parking rates) are such that it doesn't pay to have a license and vehicle.
Well, thanks for the post. I'm going to bookmark it and refer to it more later. BTW it was that incident 10 years ago that got me back to the Lord. And aside from a glass or beer or wine with meals, I haven't drank since.
Hate? I don't hate anyone. I do dislike and distrust people who are JBT's. Maybe even you. But Hate, NO
All you JBT's better hope President Bush is a one term president ( and I don't think he will be! :) )because your days are numbered. He's cleaning house, and you're part of the dirt that will be swept away. So take off your ninja suit and start pounding a beat. That's where you're needed. Serve and protect....remember?
Stay Free....
W1
PS America will work....I think God want's it to.....He's an American
Ninth Amendment: "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Simply put, our rights do not have to be listed in the constitution to exist.
Nothing like a statist newbie!
I was sitting here thinking about that and your use of "it's the law" (which, for some reason, a FReeper decided is something bad to say).
I realized that just as the other side criticizes people for being "politically incorrect", our own are just as bad when we don't use verbage to their liking.
Who got spammed? Not you. You came to this harbor on you own. The holdings not good here is it? Move on.
BTW you spell Harbor the british way. Are you an American?
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