Future Hinges on Hispanic Vote

INSIGHT magazine ^ | September 7, 2001 | Jamie Dettmer

[rightwing2]

Bush pandering to the Hispanic voters? Can't be true. Say it isn't so!

[SunStar]

President George W. Bush actively is wooing America’s largest minority group, but some within the GOP worry that Latinos are being pandered to for purely electoral reasons.

Does anyone think the Latino's are too stupid too understand this concept? I don't.

[Fee]

This what happens when white America divides into two power groups, and each one wants to win at all costs. White Democrats discovered that they can form a coalition with minorities (majority black during the late 60's) to beat the GOP even if it means enacting anti-white and anti-European programs and policies. In the 1970's, the same white Democrats reformed the immigration policies to bring in more Asians and Hispanics, and to win their allegiance expanded the existing anti-white and anti-European policies and programs. Unfortunately for short sighted white America, what will happen to them in the late 21st Century when they represent less than 50 percent of the population on a national level and even less in heavily immigrant settled states?? I wonder what the world would be for the white Democrats who know they have created a large non-white population educated by Democratic created liberal public schools and colleges that stresses how bad white people have treated them. I love to see their faces when their kids or grandkids come home crying after they have been picked on because they are white.

[Stand Watch Listen]

Does anyone think the Latino's are too stupid too understand this concept? I don't.

Hmmmm...IMHO...but other minorities buy the concept from Democrats.

[VinnyTex]

Rove has got to go...

[Clemenza]

The data on Cubans in misleading (ths is from the CIS study). This was a sample taken to be "represenatative" as a whole. Many older (over 80) Cuban Americans are Dems, as are many poorer Cubans in Hialeah,Union City, etc. Many younger Cuban Americans are independent, but there are still more Republicans among Cuban American youth than Democrats. The big change in Florida is that Cuban Americans now account for only 50% of the Hispanic vote as other groups (Puerto Ricans and COlombians) have grown.

[PRND21]

Rove has got to go...

Because of the Bush approval numbers?

[VinnyTex]

Because he's destroying the Republican party...

The entire GOP is against granting any amnesty and to be honest is getting sick and tired of this pathetic pandering.

[PRND21]

What amnesty? Talk about pathetic!

[SunStar]

Hmmmm...IMHO...but other minorities buy the concept from Democrats.

Well, that's definitely true. The Democrats are much better at deception than the Republicans.

[VinnyTex]

Take a powder you clown... Green card means amnesty... They'll bring their families and soon 3 million turns into 10 million... dirt poor people... and kids they have become American citizens at birth and the american taxpayer is the big loser.

[4truth]

I posted this on another thread, but it applies equally here regarding the Latino vote. GW's right. It's time to move away from the socialists and athiests that have enveloped Britain. (apologies to all GB freepers, you are execptions). Declaring Mexico our top priority makes a lot of sense. I venture to say there is more hope and morality and more Christianity and resources to be found in Mexico than are present in England.

This is what is so refreshing about Bush and I believe his agenda is ordered by God. I now feel hope instead of despair. Bush is proving that things can be changed. We don't have to settle for the downward spiral we have been on, but with fresh new approaches to the world's problems, we can begin an upward movement toward goodness, and blessings for all people.

With man, it is impossible, but with God all things are possible. We don't just get tired rhetoric with Bush, we get bold new ideas and if given half a chance, we get results. I wish all the naysayers and defeatists and gloom and doomers would hold their tongues for awhile and try to have a little faith. Next to God, I place great faith in our president to bring about a better nation/world and pray he will continue to ask for and act on the counsel he seeks daily from above.

Getting the Latino vote will be a great side effect of Bush's policy and well deserved "icing on the cake." More power to Bush strategy. He just keeps confounding his enemies, Lol.

[VinnyTex]

Sober up.... Dirt poor people aren't going to vote Republican... This pathetic pandering is only going to drive away the base of the party and they'll stay home in 2002 and 2004... Bush is really getting bad advice... Rove has got to go

[roostercogburn]

What is the problem here? Why is it bad to go after hispanic votes? Or to institute policies that may be beneficial to them. Once someone opens their eyes to a new party, they tend to explore the philosophy a little. . I am married to a spanish woman, and her family is not into programs or government welfare. They are conservative decent people who have voted dem because of the democrats push into the communities. But when I quiz them on their political philosophy, I prove to them that their beliefs lie much more in line with the Republican party. And guess what? They all voted for Bush. Took 4 years of debating!!, but I did it. Anesty for the illegals? That is a tricky subject. But I live in Florida, and if it were not for the mexican immigrants, you would be paying 3 times more for a tomato than you pay now. No other way to put it, the white folks around here do not want the farm work. Full amnesty for all, no. But we need a solution to keep hard working willing people here. And working on solutions to help can only help to open the door just enough for our Spanish immigrants to peek at what the differences are between the 2 parties. I tell you what, if all of us here took the time to volunteer and talk to minorities on party politics, be a neighborly person, we could make some progress. P.S. One other thing , President Bush has spent his life in Texas. He has been around the latin heritage and culture quite a bit. He knows it. Hell,his nephews and nieces are 1/2 spanish. His brother is married to a mexican woman. His intentions may be very sincere and thoughtful.

[roostercogburn]

What is the problem here? Why is it a bad thing to want hispanic voters? Or to institute policies that may be beneficial to them. The large number of legal spanish/american citizens here are deserveing of representation. Nowhere in the Constitution does it speak of illegal aliens does it? Or how to allow them into the country. Or the laws to govern immigration.If it does someone let me know where. Once someone opens their eyes to a new party, they tend to explore the philosophy a little. . I am married to a spanish woman, and her family is not into programs or government welfare. They are conservative decent people who have voted dem because of the democrats push into the communities. But when I quiz them on their political philosophy, I prove to them that their beliefs lie much more in line with the Republican party. And guess what? They all voted for Bush. Took 4 years of debating!!, but I did it. Anesty for the illegals? That is a tricky subject. But I live in Florida, and if it were not for the mexican immigrants, you would be paying 3 times more for a tomato than you pay now. No other way to put it, the white folks around here do not want the farm work. Full amnesty for all, no. But we need a solution to keep hard working willing people here. And working on solutions to help can only help to open the door just enough for our Spanish immigrants to peek at what the differences are between the 2 parties. I tell you what, if all of us here took the time to volunteer and talk to minorities on party politics, be a neighborly person, we could make some progress. P.S. One other thing , President Bush has spent his life in Texas. He has been around the latin heritage and culture quite a bit. He knows it. Hell,his nephews and nieces are 1/2 spanish. His brother is married to a mexican woman. His intentions may be very sincere and thoughtful.

[bayourod]

"Does anyone think the Latino's are too stupid too understand this concept? I don't. "

"Pandering" to one person is simply "doing what's right" to another person.

Can you cite an example of where a group has ever rejected a politician because he "pandered" to them?

When President Bush banned foreign aid for abortions did any of the prolife leaders protest because they thought he was "pandering" to them?

When President Bush rejected the KYOTO treaty did the anti-globalist rise up in indigantion because he was "pandering" to them?

Illegal immigration is a FACT. It cannot be stopped at this time. President Bush is trying to deal with it instead of pretending it doesn't exist. No one else has come up with any practical solution.

[SunStar]

Can you cite an example of where a group has ever rejected a politician because he "pandered" to them?

Look, a have a lot of Mexican-American friends. They tell me that Univision and other Spanish-language TV and radio stations are all talking about this, and the position being taken is that Bush is ONLY doing this for votes. That may or may not be true.

[VinnyTex]

No one else has come up with any practical solution.

Sure... go after the people who hire em... cut off their jobs and they'll stop coming.. just that simple... It's sickening to watch some pitiful 3rd world leader dictate to the United States what we should do with his citizens... Instead, we should be telling this idiot to clean up his country so all his dirt poor people don't flee here fuggggin up this country.

[Dick Bachert]

At the time of his approach to Red China, Richard Nixon (a REPUBLICAN for those of you from Rio Linda) was approached by an internationalist businessman who was literally salivating over the prospect of access to the BILLIONS of potential Chinese slave laborers and “customers” (although this rocket scientist had apparently not yet concluded that the Chinese people would be hard pressed to buy his stuff without MONEY!!!!).

This businessman was concerned that Nixon had been SAYING that he was cooling to the idea of an opening to Red China to quell the uprising within the then very much more America-First rank and file Republican Party.

As reported years later, Nixon told the businessman
“DON’T LISTEN TO WHAT WE SAY: WATCH WHAT WE DO!”</FONT COLOR=RED>

It is my strong memory of THAT event which prompts me to post this graphic!

AS YOU READ THIS, IT APPEARS THAT BUSH, DASCHLE AND OTHERS ARE WELL DOWN THE ROAD TO USING THIS PAGE FROM THE NIXON PLAYBOOK!

Look, America – the IDEA not the PLACE – can only continue to exist if we heed the advice of the founding fathers (paraphrased here in the current vernacular for residents of Rio Linda), to wit:
“The Founding Fathers have determined that failure to WATCH politicians – ALL POLITICIANS (even those you may worship!) – is dangerous to the security of this nation and to the freedoms we paid such a heavy price to TRY to leave you and your children.” “Government is not reason. Government is not eloquence. It is FORCE. And, like fire, it is a DANGEROUS SERVANT AND A FEARSOME MASTER.”

That from that notorious tinfoil hat wearing, radical wing-nut, George Washington.