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Acting on a bad tip, Cobb SWAT team bursts into home; officer's gun goes off
Atlanta Paper ^ | 9/5 | Journal staff

Posted on 09/06/2001 6:33:54 AM PDT by from occupied ga

Acting on a bad tip, Cobb SWAT team
bursts into home; officer's gun goes off

By CRAIG SCHNEIDER
Atlanta Journal-Constitution Staff Writer


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Ben Gray / AJC
John Bailey stands by the bullethole caused by a SWAT machine gun that accidentally discharged.

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The Cobb County police thought they had a killer cornered Sunday and they didn't want to waste time. They didn't want to tip him off. They didn't want to endanger themselves or the public. And they didn't want him to get away.

But the 3 a.m. raid -- in which police targeted the wrong man, and an officer fired his gun accidentally -- raises questions of how far police should go before bursting into people's lives.

John Bailey was relaxing in his home Sunday when he suddenly found himself handcuffed, with guns pointed at his head and police combing through his apartment.

He had just come home from a Lynyrd Skynyrd concert, and the evening was winding down at 3 a.m. The 41-year-old computer programmer was having some drinks with a friend when the knock on the door came, bringing with it the "scariest moment of my life."

It had been a different evening for the Cobb County police. They had received a tip from a manager of Bailey's apartment complex. The woman said a man who rented an apartment matched a photo of a fugitive shown that evening on TV's "America's Most Wanted."

Armed with a warrant, the police SWAT team descended on his red front door. Bailey had just put some fish and chips in the oven when the knock came. There were a handful of police officers, he recalled, looking like a military unit. They had rifles, night-vision goggles, helmets.

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John Bailey, left, was mistaken by a TV viewer for James Detmer, right. "They could have just looked at me through a pair of binoculars and seen I wasn't him," says an angry Bailey.
The police barked orders at him. He was handcuffed and pushed around, he said. They were talking about somebody killing his father with a hammer. "And they were treating me like I was him," said Bailey.

Unfortunately, they had the wrong man.

Making matters worse, an officer's submachine gun went off inadvertently. The bullet shot through a metal closet door, through the bathroom wall, and put a hole in Bailey's deodorant stick before landing in the bathtub.

"It freaked me out," he said.

No one was injured in Sunday's early morning raid on Bailey's apartment near Vinings. Police are reviewing the incident, and it is unknown whether any disciplinary action or procedural changes will result, said police spokesman Dana Pierce.

When Cobb County police believe they know a fugitive's whereabouts, they say they must balance the desire to move fast to protect the public from a criminal, against the time needed to verify they've got the right man. If they have the right man, every minute may be critical. If they don't, they'll apologize.

Gerry Weber, a legal director with the American Civil Liberties Union of Georgia, was critical of the raid. Police should have been more suspicious of a tip received from the airing of a television show, he said, and they should have taken greater pains to ensure the man in question was the man they wanted.

Fugitive-chasing television shows create a furor to catch the criminals they profile, he said. "People want to be famous. They want to be the one who catches the guy on 'America's Most Wanted,' " he said.

Bailey, who moved to the complex three months ago, said the police should have taken more time to obtain his name from the apartment manager. They could have checked his references on the lease. They could have checked his car tag. They could have talked to his neighbors or relatives.

"They could have just looked at me through a pair of binoculars and seen I wasn't him," Bailey said.

However, Pierce said the SWAT team acted quickly but not haphazardly. Stressing the fugitive was deemed armed and dangerous, he said, "You want to get to him as quickly as possible. What if we would have waited? A fugitive could then have injured or killed somebody else."

The phone tip came to police Saturday night, shortly after the program profiled James Detmer, a 44-year-old Kansas man who allegedly killed his father with the claw end of a hammer in Missouri. Days before, Detmer had fled after making bond on a charge that he tried to set a woman on fire with gasoline.

By 2 a.m., the police had persuaded a judge to issue a warrant. Police took a photo of the wanted man to the apartment manager, who again said she recognized the fugitive. Both Detmer and Bailey are about 40 years old, and both are about 5-foot-10 and 240 pounds.

Bailey was handcuffed, Pierce said, "to protect the officers and himself" until it could be determined he was not the fugitive.

FBI spokesman Richard Kolco said such raids are routine, and he believes the Cobb police acted appropriately in choosing to go in.

"Everybody was treated correctly with respect," he said. "If it doesn't work out, you just tell them, 'Thank you for your time.' It's worth it."

On Wednesday, Bailey said his hands were still shaking. Any knock on his door drives up his blood pressure, he said. He is taking medicine for that, as well as to help him sleep.

The bullets fired inside his home were especially unnerving.

"If anybody was in that bathroom, they would have been shot," he said.

He has hired a lawyer. Attorney Stephen P. Berne of Atlanta is demanding that an outside agency look into the raid. He noted that this is not the first time the Cobb County SWAT team has come under criticism. An independent report on a raid that resulted in the deaths of two SWAT members, was critical of the team's tactics.

On Sunday, Berne said, police created a dangerous situation at Bailey's apartment.

"He has a right to be safe in his own home."

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To: from occupied ga
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I love the look on his face. hehe

41 posted on 09/06/2001 7:24:26 AM PDT by JMJ333
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To: Texaggie79
idiot

noone has advocated legalizing murder., but you are condoning that cops, on on a whim, with weak tips can burst into homes at random and "accidentally" let loose with machine guns.

42 posted on 09/06/2001 7:25:03 AM PDT by fod
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To: from occupied ga
The Cobb County police thought they had a killer cornered Sunday and they didn't want to waste time. They didn't want to tip him off. They didn't want to endanger themselves or the public. And they didn't want him to get away.

I hate to be the one to break it to the officers here, but...well... you should be *damned sure* you've got the right man before breaking into his house. Have you ever heard of survelliance? Hmm?

And the judge who issued the warrant -- what an idiot. Did he ask them 'Are you sure this is the right guy?' No. He said, basically, "Here you go, boys, knock yourselves out. And if you ever need any more warrants, just drop by and ask. My door is always open!" It's pathetic.

It's sad, but this happens far to regularly. I guess we don't need that silly ole 4th Amendment. I mean, it is more important that we bust in on someone as soon as possible rather than we make every effort to allow our citizens to be safe in their home and in their papers...

Tuor

43 posted on 09/06/2001 7:25:13 AM PDT by Tuor
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To: from occupied ga
"Everybody was treated correctly with respect," he said. "If it doesn't work out, you just tell them, 'Thank you for your time.' It's worth it."

This quote just gave me shivers!! I can't believe that this crap is happening in America. I thought we had a constitutional right to be secure in our own homes....

What the he!! does "If it doesn't work out" mean? When I got to this paragraph, I honestly thought this may have been an Onion piece.

44 posted on 09/06/2001 7:25:38 AM PDT by Siouxz
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To: Texaggie79
Keep on defending the gubmint, hack. What happened to good police work?
45 posted on 09/06/2001 7:25:38 AM PDT by Stew Padasso
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To: JMJ333
That guy could easily be dead today.
46 posted on 09/06/2001 7:26:46 AM PDT by Stew Padasso
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To: from occupied ga
BUMP FOR LATER
47 posted on 09/06/2001 7:27:22 AM PDT by the crow
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To: JMJ333
The lengths some of you go to to defend this nonsense is bizarre.

Why would I defend stupid @$$ cops who can't even keep their weapons from accidentally firing?

I'm pointing out that this would never be an issue if murder was legal.

48 posted on 09/06/2001 7:27:26 AM PDT by Texaggie79
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To: from occupied ga
BUMP FOR LATER
49 posted on 09/06/2001 7:27:30 AM PDT by the crow
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To: fod
I ain't condoning anything. But I'm just looking for a solution. Why can you be consistent? If we should legalize drugs because of the wrong things that cops have done, why not murder?
50 posted on 09/06/2001 7:29:51 AM PDT by Texaggie79
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To: Stew Padasso
WHOA WHOA WHOA! Who said I am defending these jerks? Read my post again. It's just about a solution.
51 posted on 09/06/2001 7:30:45 AM PDT by Texaggie79
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To: Texaggie79
I was waiting to hear what you (and the other like you)would say
"Everybody was treated correctly with respect," he said. "If it doesn't work out, you just tell them, 'Thank you for your time.' It's worth it."


I'm sure everyone was treated with respect here too, from the viewpoint of the police that is. At least these police aren't wearing ski masks.
52 posted on 09/06/2001 7:31:51 AM PDT by from occupied ga
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To: Texaggie79
I'm pointing out that this would never be an issue if murder was legal.

Go for it dumbass, and start lobbying, but do not come to the Libertarians for any help.

We do not need nor want your type pushing your inane ideas of throwing human rights (like the fright to life) out the window.

Ignorance used to be your excuse, but plain stupidity is now.

53 posted on 09/06/2001 7:32:42 AM PDT by fod
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To: from occupied ga
If they have the right man, every minute may be critical. If they don't, they'll apologize.

"Uh, sorry we accidentally shot you, sir. You can come back from the grave now."

54 posted on 09/06/2001 7:32:52 AM PDT by B-Chan
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To: Texaggie79
That is so sick! I live in Cobb and I am a Libertarian.
I don't want to legalize murder and I don't want a JBT
to kill my wife or my daughter at 3:am and respond,
"we had to act quickly".
55 posted on 09/06/2001 7:33:15 AM PDT by higgmeister
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To: from occupied ga
BACK the hell up. Why do you people think I am defending the SWAT team on this?

They screwed up big time, they lack professional training, and are to be held accountable for what they did. I am with you, the cops can be idiots sometimes. This is not my point.

56 posted on 09/06/2001 7:34:30 AM PDT by Texaggie79
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To: from occupied ga
Three cheers for the brave cops doing their job. We love you police officers. Nobody is perfect except JC.
57 posted on 09/06/2001 7:34:34 AM PDT by imperator2
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To: JMJ333
I love the look on his face. hehe

Yes, you can definately see he has a newfound sense of respect for the men and women sworn to protect and serve him. hehehe

58 posted on 09/06/2001 7:35:01 AM PDT by Jolly Rodgers
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To: higgmeister
I don't want to legalize murder and I don't want a JBT to kill my wife or my daughter at 3:am and respond, "we had to act quickly".

Then legalize murder, and don't worry about it. Obviously it would work with drugs. Why are you now contradicting?

59 posted on 09/06/2001 7:35:59 AM PDT by Texaggie79
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To: Texaggie79
Haven't we learned our leason from the Libertarians yet. LEGALIZE MURDER, it is the only way to stop this madness.

Too late. It has already been legalized -- FOR POLICE.

60 posted on 09/06/2001 7:36:28 AM PDT by Jolly Rodgers
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