Recommendations for those falsely accused of child abuse

victims of child abuse laws ^

[sendtoscott]

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[1Old Pro]

Janet Reno falsely and maliciously prosecuted an ex-cop of child abuse.....ruined his life. This alone makes Reno unfit for office. Add in the waco muders and the Elian kidnapping and we have one sick woman.

[upchuck]

Good ideas. But what we really need are laws that severly restrict what these goons can do.

[concerned about politics]

Sounds like Nazi police.
They say they work to protect the children, but has anyone asked the children if they feel they were helped? No, that mustn't become an issue, because the answer would be NO.

[Phantom Lord]

DO NOT let CPS case workers or police inside your house unless they have a warrant. If they insist on seeing your child call the child to the door. DO NOT open the door. DO tell them you will not talk to them without your attorney present, even if you don't have an attorney. DO NOT GIVE CPS caseworkers or the police any information in defense of yourself. CPS will take anything you say and twist it to use against you. BE firm but polite and courteous at all times.

Recently in North Carolina, the courts have ruled that CPS employees are NOT agents of the state and not bound by the 4th amendment to the constitution and that they DO NOT need a warrant to enter a persons home to question or seize a child!

This came about because an anonymous tip was placed with CPS that a child was being abused. CPS came to the home of a family in NC and demanded access to the child. The parents demanded a warrant and CPS told them they didnt need one! The parents, who are homeschoolers, luckily are members of the Home School Legal Defense Fund and they have defended the family in court and are now trying to get the case heard by the USSC. Hopefully they will take the case and rule that CPS employees are agents of the state and bound by the 4th amendment.

Oh, and as to why an anonymous tip was placed... a 2 year old girl ran outside naked to retrieve her cat that just ran out the door. It is believed that the school bus driver that picks kids up on their street was the one who placed the call.

I'm sure other NC Freepers can provide links to stories on this.

[Mr. K]

This is right on the money- I divorced a **DIAGNOSED** psychopath, and CPS told me right to my face that they WOULD NOT talk to ANY neighbors, freinds, or relatives after I BEGGED them to... I asked them how they could then learn anything since ONE OF US had to be lying...

I was given custody in court after the (court appointed) doctors' diagnosis, and on nothing more then an accusation by my ex the CPS worker siad to me "well we are going to leave the children with her until we complete our investigation..."

I told her in NO UNCERTAIN TERMS that I WOULD NOT be leaving my children there, after just being granted custody...

I then told her about my neighbor calling and saying my children were playing outside unsupervised and she told me one was HANGING BY HER NECK from her clothing on the swingset, and the CPS workers said "Oh yeah? that's the same thing SHE told ME" (Implying that therefore it must be a story we made up together...)

These people are TOO STUPID TO BE ALLOWED TO MAKE SUCH DECISIONS!!!

[kaylar]

She did that to quite a few people, including a child of 12. Yes, I mean she accused a child of 14 of molesting younger children...This child (Bobby Fijnje) was a diabetic, and she had his insulin withheld in an attempt to force a confession. He was found not guilty by a jury, and he and his family fled back to Holland.

That thing is pure, unmitigated filth.

[Dog Gone]

If you refuse to talk to a CPS case worker unless an attorney is present, I am quite confident that will turn you into a high-profile target within that agency. You certainly have the all rights outlined in your post, and you should certainly exercise all of them if there is anything at all in your conduct which could be misconstrued, and especially if this is really a spousal custody issue.

However, CPS does investigate a lot of cases where they conclude there is no basis for further action after a single interview. Refusing to cooperate and turning it into an adversarial relationship ensures that, at a minimum, the process will be lengthy and expensive.

[Doctor Stochastic]

Isn't refusing to talk without an attorney present one of the main objections people had with the Ramseys? The usual line is that people with nothing to hide don't need attorneys.

[Tai_Chung]

I would like to see a website that lists the rules and regulations of CPS for each state.

[editor-surveyor]

Do work to restore the Wall of Separation between Child and State.

[A. Pole]

Bump

[editor-surveyor]

"However, CPS does investigate a lot of cases where they conclude there is no basis for further action..."

Yea, like once in 10,000 cases maybe.

Do you work for the nabber-NAZI ??

[hsmomx3]

And from what I have heard/read many of these workers are single and/or have no children of their own. Must be a pre-requisite that they dislike children in order to break a family into pieces for the rest of their lives.

[editor-surveyor]

"Isn't refusing to talk without an attorney present one of the main objections people had with the Ramseys?"

No, but it was one of the Jack-booted NAZI's objections.

Thugs don't like it when people demand their rights.

[mykdsmom]

Here and Here"

MKM

[hsmomx3]

Here are two sites that have info.

http://www.donttakeourkids.com/

http://www.cpswatch.com/guide/

[js1138]

If you refuse to talk to a CPS case worker unless an attorney is present, I am quite confident that will turn you into a high-profile target within that agency.

I suggest anyone tempted to take the advice in the posted article -- take time to consider how you feel about Gary Condit. Getting lawyered up won't help you much in family court.

I worked in this mess for seven years. Lots of false charges are made in divorce cases. Both sides want to kill each other. Intelligent case workers (good luck) learn to discount charges that suddenly come up in the middle of a divorce.

Only really good advice: admit your are ticked off at the charges, but keep your cool. This is your first and best weapon, your ability to remain calm when you are talking about the case. Consult a lawyer in private but don't expect the lawyer to charge in and fix things.