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Hopkins study backs gun controls {J.H is a part of the U.N. system}
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/ ^ | 9/4/2001 | By Frank D. Roylance

Posted on 09/04/2001 8:36:29 AM PDT by freedomnews

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:49:18 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

A Johns Hopkins University study has concluded that criminals in states that require licensing and registration of handguns have a harder time acquiring guns than those in states that don't have such laws.

The findings contradict the position of gun-rights advocates, who say that gun licensing and registration do little or nothing to prevent criminals from acquiring guns illegally, while threatening Second Amendment rights.

Gun-control advocates immediately seized on the study as evidence in favor of handgun licensing legislation in Maryland.


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Did you know that John Hopkins is a part of the U.N. system

The U.N. has their main library kept at John Hopkins.

A month ago, the U.N. had a small armed conference.

Now the NGO's that have attended this conference have a report on Registration, licenses

Now this report will be the guidelines to get through legislation, through our law makers to make new laws through this report. And of course the media, TV, and radio will play up to this report.

This is how it's usually done to brainwash the American people and Congress.

1 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by freedomnews
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To: t-shirt
Remember -- Registration is the First Step Towards Confiscation !!
2 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by freedomnews
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To: freedomnews
50 Gun Bills to Annihilate the Second Amendment in Congress Right Now!
3 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by freedomnews
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To: freedomnews
Johns Hopkins freedom grabbing studies are funded by the JOYCE FOUNDATION. Stephen Teret is their leader and Daniel Webster teamed with Teret for a BS job on Lott's study.

This is nothing more than an advocacy group.

4 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: freedomnews
Why aren't these people doing what they should be doing, such as look for cures for diseases????

Here's a take on this "study" by a different group of doctors. Doctors Group Says Gun Study 'Doesn't Add Up'

5 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by Gabz
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To: freedomnews
There are only 3 bills I'm worried about on the federal level at this time. S767 and S890 which are the 'gun show' bills and also Feinswine's 50 caliber.
6 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: freedomnews
The ATF's Criminal and Illegal Gun Database -- Keeping Tabs on Law-Abiding Gun Owners Across the Country and Supplying Police Across the Country with This Information Follow this Link the Click on the Video to "Watch the TV Segment"
7 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by freedomnews
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To: Dan from Michigan
did you see the video on post 7
8 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by freedomnews
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To: Dan from Michigan
THE ATF They Have a Nice Term for It, But a Database Is a Database
9 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by freedomnews
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To: freedomnews
I haven't yet. When I get my cable modem(Tomorrow?!), I'll look at it.
10 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: bang_list
Hopkins study backs gun controls

Wow. I never would have expected this conclusion. < /sarcasm>


11 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by Joe Brower
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To: Dan from Michigan
Panel Meets and Comes Under Fire By Kelley O. Beaucar

WASHINGTON — The panel appointed by President Bill Clinton to study existing research and data on firearms met for the first time Thursday and was immediately shot at for allegedly being stacked with pro-gun control academics and funded by advocates for tighter gun control laws.

The panel, called the Committee to Improve Research Information and Data on Firearms, will operate under the supervision of the National Academy of Sciences and the National Research Council, with a final paper due in May 2003.

But John Lott, a criminal researcher who is skeptical of gun control laws, says the panel is like "a parting present from President Clinton," that will be delivered just in time to boost pro-gun control candidates in the 2004 elections.

"It's not a balanced panel," Lott, a Yale University law professor, said Thursday after the committee held its inaugural meeting in Washington, D.C.

The panel has "selectively picked the questions which focus on all of the bad aspects of guns and not the benefits," said Lott. "And, they've been selective in who they have put on the panel and they are making sure the report comes out just before a major election."

According to its mission statement, the committee is supposed to study current firearms research and data, including methodologies and prevention, intervention and control strategies," illegal firearms markets and the "complex ways in which firearms may become embedded in the community."

The panel has 16 members, including former Carter administration Attorney General Benjamin Civiletti, a gun control advocate.

"The nation can no longer afford to let the gun lobby's distortion of the Constitution cripple every reasonable attempt to implement an effective national policy towards guns and crime," Civiletti said in The Washington Post in 1992.

The panel also includes Steven Levitt, a University of Chicago professor who has written extensively on guns and crime and authored a controversial study that said the legalization of abortion in the United States in the early 1970s may explain in part the drop in crime in the last several years.

And the committee is funded in part by Joyce Foundation and the David & Lucille Packard Foundation, both generous supporters of anti-gun groups in the past.

But the committee also includes James Q. Wilson, who has supported gun ownership rights in his writings. Wilson, a professor of political science at Pepperdine University, said Thursday that he does not believe the committee's mission is to direct policy, rather to take a tough look at existing data in hopes of improving resources for policymakers, researchers and social scientists in the future.

He said this is the fourth time he has sat on a National Academy of Sciences panel and each time he has found it to be balanced and apolitical. "My hope and belief is this panel will do the same thing," he said. "I could be wrong, but I've been on this loop before and I expect it will be the same."

Carol Petrie of the National Research Council says those in charge of the selection process took recommendations from the varying Academy of Science departments and tried to avoid choosing persons with "extreme views" either way.

"It's not that the people may not have personal biases," she said, but they all have "credible, objective views of research." If the committee finds that it does not have a balance, she added, they are not averse to adding one or two new members.

"We wanted people who would be open-minded to the facts," she said. "It's a consensus process."

Lott did not make the cut. His research of 3,054 U.S. counties over a 17-year period resulted in a conclusion that tough gun control laws do not deter crime, but in those states and counties that have adapted concealed-carry laws allowing citizens to carry firearms in public, crime has dropped.

His work has been criticized by gun control groups before and today was no exception.

"Are all his findings believable?" challenged Douglas Weil of the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence. "Why do we need to know this stuff?"

"I don't think they can say they have no predisposed outcome," Kopel said. "I think it's a group of people who are first class, respectable folks … but who are inclined to be on the control side."

12 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by freedomnews
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To: freedomnews
"Registration is the first step toward confiscation..."

Yup. Here's a story from just a couple days ago that proves the point once again (as if any further proof were needed):

Bangladesh Commences Licensed-Gun Confiscation
13 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast
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To: Dan from Michigan
the poilce now in very state can get use ATF Database from police cars now

just my puting in the address to see how many GUNS they have

14 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by freedomnews
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To: freedomnews
Hopkins study backs gun controls

Hey, Johns Hopkins University, what you say about this:

Number of physicians in the US: 700,000.
Accidental deaths caused by physicians per year: 120,000
Accidental deaths per physician.... 0.171 (U.S. Dept. of Health & Human Services)
Number of gun owners in the US: 80,000,000
Number of accidental gun deaths per year (all age groups): 1,500
Accidental deaths per gun owner: 0.0000188 (* Benton County News Tribune on 17th of November, 1999)
Statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.

15 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by Zon
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To: freedomnews
Hopkins study backs gun controls

Hey, Johns Hopkins University, what you say about this:

Number of physicians in the US: 700,000.
Accidental deaths caused by physicians per year: 120,000
Accidental deaths per physician.... 0.171 (U.S. Dept. of Health & Human Services)
Number of gun owners in the US: 80,000,000
Number of accidental gun deaths per year (all age groups): 1,500
Accidental deaths per gun owner: 0.0000188 (* Benton County News Tribune on 17th of November, 1999)
Statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.

16 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by Zon
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To: freedomnews
PICTURE THIS:

There you are, sitting around the TV late one afternoon after getting off work. Dinner is on the stove, and life is in its usual routine. The doorbell rings.

You look out the window and there is a local cop and someone in casual attire. You answer the door, "yes"?

"Mrs. J. Q. Public? My name is Special Agent Rock with the BATF. This is Officer Crusher of the [Local] Police Department. As you know, a federal law was recently passed that requires all citizens to surrender their firearms. Our records show that you have two shotguns and a pistol. We have a federal warrant requiring you to surrender these weapons at once. We will accompany you to retrieve them."

Far fetched? Just wait, it's going to happen. Forty years ago, who would have believed that society would find it legal and even justifiable to murder an infant as it was being delivered from the mother's womb? Forty years ago, who would have believed our president could get away with [fill in the blank with your favorite] crime? Forty years ago, we began the rapid decent on which we currently ride. Our speed is picking up.

It's only a matter of time.

17 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by Gig
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
The police have gone from police services

Enforcement of Gun Confiscation

18 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by freedomnews
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To: Gig
you are so right

the people need to wake up now!!

19 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by freedomnews
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To: Gig Dan from Michigan
National Gun Registration - Paving the Road to Tyranny
20 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by freedomnews
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