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The Cornell Seven and the problem with consent
The Spectator ^ | 10/05/2026 | Joanna Williams

Posted on 10/05/2026 9:01:05 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

It’s October and a new academic year is underway. In Britain, students are taking diversity classes; in France, they are rioting. And in America, they are panicking about campus rape culture. Plus ça change…

The legacy of the almost decade-old Me Too movement is that we ‘believe all women’ but, as the Cornell case shows, sometimes reality is more complex

The case of the “Cornell Seven” has been making headlines across the US this week after a female student, known only as Jane Doe, filed a civil lawsuit alleging she was drugged and raped by seven male students in the Chi Phi university fraternity house in October 2024.

At first glance, the facts are horrific. A woman, who was 20 years old at the time, claims she was coerced into taking drugs and abused, assaulted and raped by a group of young men. One of those present sent a crude Snapchat message advertising free sex and inviting others to join in. Traumatized, Doe reported her attack to the university police, who refused to prosecute. A campus disciplinary committee took up Doe’s case and, after a hearing, expelled two students, but others, according to her lawsuit, were “afforded the opportunity to mitigate their conduct by submitting essays” (a claim the university denies). This weak response is, apparently, behind Doe’s latest attempt to secure justice.

Now outrage at details of the attack, and Cornell’s handling of the situation, has been fueled by the university newspaper naming the accused men. The retrial may not have begun, but activists and celebrities have picked sides. This week, Democratic Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez spoke to students and condemned a “culture of rape” at elite institutions. Doe, she complained, “had to lose her education, and those men were protected by an institution and granted an Ivy League degree as a reward. Never again.” Hollywood icon Florence Pugh told her 10.8 million Instagram followers that she felt “uneasy and sick and anxious” about the “horrific act that happened at Cornell College in 2024.” “This makes me feel enraged,” she has added this week, “as it should every person on this earth.”

For feminists like Pugh and AOC, the Cornell case is straightforward: a traumatized young woman bravely fighting for justice against the men who raped her and an establishment that let them get away with it. But scratch the surface, and things are more complex.

Three weeks passed between the night of Doe’s alleged attack and her decision to inform campus police that she had been sexually assaulted and coerced into taking ketamine. Newly released files compiled as part of the university’s investigation reveal that during this time, Doe told her roommates what had happened, but did not describe herself as a rape victim. The next day, she told her sorority mentor that rumors were circulating that she was a “slut” before adding with a laugh that “unfortunately they are true.” When one of the men she would go on to accuse of assaulting her messaged to apologize for how the evening had panned out, she replied: “At the end of the day non of the sexual stuff was illegal and honestly i really liked being w u and matt.” The pair exchanged more friendly messages in the days that followed. Only as campus gossip grew did Doe begin to see herself as a rape victim.

Anger at the police for deciding not to prosecute may also be misguided. Papers now seen by UnHerd include Doe’s initial statement, in which she says that she agreed to have sex with two men, and consented to taking drugs, including snorting ketamine off the erect penis of one of the accused and allowing others to snort drugs off her naked body. By the end of the evening, Doe, now more intoxicated, claims she was aware of having sex with other men but could not “remember how it started.” It is perhaps unsurprising, then, that the police decided her behavior met the legal standard for voluntary consent, and there were insufficient grounds for bringing a prosecution.

Neither is the subsequent disciplinary hearing, carried out by the university, a straightforward story of male privilege. All seven men faced very serious accusations in what has since been described as a “kangaroo court.” Two of the men, found guilty by the university, were eventually suspended from the university. Yet, in her initial statement, Doe describes one of the men involved as struggling to maintain an erection and needing a “nap,” and another as “dry-heaving” during their encounter. It is hard not to conclude that Doe and these two men were intoxicated, yet only the woman was deemed unable to consent.

Another man, Scott Kretzschmar, stood accused of sexually assaulting Doe by snorting ketamine off her naked body. He protested his innocence and provided the results of a drug test, which proved negative for the drug. Yet, after being tried over a Zoom call, during which his lawyer noticed that one committee member was apparently in a car and driving during the proceedings, he was found guilty of attempted sexual exploitation, a charge he says he did not even know he was facing.

These new details cast doubt on the narrative now being promoted by Doe’s celebrity backers. The legacy of the almost decade-old Me Too movement is that we “believe all women” but, as the Cornell case shows, sometimes reality is more complex, and we need to think critically. Rape is horrific and undoubtedly utterly devastating for the victim. But false allegations must also be taken seriously.

Rather than rushing to pass judgment on the Cornell Seven, we should ask why men and women are held to different standards on consent, and why university disciplinary committees should play any role at all in trying such serious accusations as rape. 


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: consent; cornell; metoo; rape

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1 posted on 10/05/2026 9:01:05 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
It's the "Cornell 8", not the "Cornell 7" as she did consent and was a willing participant.

That number may change, depending on how many men come forward and disclose that they were too intoxicated to give consent.

Apparently one man has come forward saying he was too intoxicated. If true, it makes it rape - on her part.

2 posted on 10/05/2026 9:10:40 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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I wonder what this is a distraction from. The Clancy thing I guess.


3 posted on 10/05/2026 9:13:42 PM PDT by proust (All posts made under this handle are, for the intents and purposes of the author, considered satire.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Stop calling it “an attack”

The woman liked one of the boys at the frat. She asked to attend the party. He said “you’re always welcome.” She went to the party drunk, had more alcohol, and then went upstairs for 4 hours with the boy and a couple of his friends

She texted the next day saying she had fun and wanted to see him again.

After getting dumped by the guy, and having her reputation trashed, she claimed a sexual assault, but even then two weeks later, admitted that she willingly participated.

ALL THIS IS - is democrats wishing to rehash the “me too” movement, one month before midterm elections. The have appointed the female Al Sharpton, Leticia James, to do just that.


4 posted on 10/05/2026 9:16:38 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: proust

makes sense. they got slammed in the court of public opinion after the hung jury verdict so they pivot to a new victim. and when this one flames out...


5 posted on 10/05/2026 9:18:58 PM PDT by KingofZion
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To: KingofZion

Joanna Williams giving it the old college try to keep it relevant.


6 posted on 10/05/2026 9:27:43 PM PDT by Kudsman (Killing and raping infidels, it's a cultural thing. )
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To: Kudsman

When some Penn State football players got into a bar altercation Coach Joe Paterno’s biggest disappointment was the lack of leadership shown to diffuse the situation. He made the team show up to the stadium the day after a game and made them clean it up.


7 posted on 10/05/2026 9:52:37 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: SeekAndFind

Did “Jane” Graduate?


8 posted on 10/05/2026 11:04:53 PM PDT by Paladin2 (YMMV)
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To: SeekAndFind

It sounds like she had some nymphomaniac tendencies.


9 posted on 10/05/2026 11:08:46 PM PDT by Paladin2 (YMMV)
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To: Paladin2

What is her current body count?


10 posted on 10/05/2026 11:09:23 PM PDT by Paladin2 (YMMV)
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To: proust

” a distraction from. The Clancy thing “

They’re both the same thing.

Both based on obvious lies.

In both, the women clearly said they “did it”.

In both, society has flipped it to say the men are guilty.

In both, the men’s futures and careers are in peril based on lies.

In both, evil attorneys are involved.

Make no mistake, no matter what NYS law is regarding exculpatory evidence and facts, Big Tish will come through for Hochul. She’ll ferret out some minutiae to result in the guys being ruined financially. An attorney on Newsmax said they’ll each probably have to hire two attorneys — I think for civil and criminal actions.

And with sex crimes on their records, how will that impact their careers?

It’s true that they’re pigs (as is the girl), but they’re not guilty technically since everything was consensual. One of the guys seriously could accuse HER of rape, since he was impaired by drugs.


11 posted on 10/05/2026 11:20:12 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends.)
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To: PGR88
Agree!

Replace the willing female participant here with a willing male participant assuming the "submissive" role and view the whole incident as a homosexual orgy - and the story instantly loses steam and comes to a complete halt.

Regards,

12 posted on 10/05/2026 11:42:45 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek

True.


13 posted on 10/05/2026 11:51:14 PM PDT by antceecee ( )
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To: SeekAndFind

Jane Doe, is a lying, conniving, vengeful, malicious trollop.


14 posted on 10/06/2026 12:12:51 AM PDT by lastchance (Cognovit Dominus qui sunt eius.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The problem seems to be, that she consented to have sex with a few of the boys, but not all of them. I believe she was incapacitated/passed out at some point and anything after that is rape/ assault.


15 posted on 10/06/2026 12:37:36 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Warning: Accused of being a radical militarist. Approach with caution.)
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To: nuconvert

Consider that you put a nice swimming pool in your back yard, tell a few friends to drop by anytime, then you leave the pool unguarded and unfenced.

Who is responsible when someone drowns?


16 posted on 10/06/2026 1:14:10 AM PDT by Inquiring Minds
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To: Inquiring Minds

That’s a really warped analogy. It also sounds like justification for sexual assault on a helpless person.


17 posted on 10/06/2026 1:25:25 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Warning: Accused of being a radical militarist. Approach with caution.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“ Doe reported her attack to the university police, who refused to prosecute“

No sign of the word “alleged” in this article…


18 posted on 10/06/2026 2:41:45 AM PDT by TalBlack (An old man does not die in the country into which he was born.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Typical of what a certain kind of woman might do if she changes her mind after the fact. This young “Jane Doe” could just learn to live with certain regrets like most adults.


19 posted on 10/06/2026 2:59:12 AM PDT by equaviator (Nobody's perfect. That's why they put pencils on erasers!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Believe all women....you mean like Tara Reade?

Oh. I see.

So we don't really believe all women, do we?

I guess the more accurate slogan would be: Believe all women!....unless they accuse Democrats in which case, they're lying sluts."

BTW, this chick voluntarily got drunk and did drugs, BRAGGED about the encounter, was friendly with at least one of the guys she had sex with, repeatedly said there was nothing wrong, no crime had taken place, she had enjoyed it, etc in emails and texts. Only later when she became concerned about the talk going around that she was a slut, did she suddenly decide she was a "victim" and that a crime had taken place. Cornell being infected with woke insanity expelled 2 of the guys involved despite all the above....which is a complete joke.

20 posted on 10/06/2026 3:05:36 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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