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If AI attempts to take over world, don’t count on a ‘kill switch’ to save humanity
CNBC ^ | July 24th, 2025 | Kevin Williams

Posted on 09/12/2026 12:27:26 PM PDT by Mariner

When it was reported last month that Anthropic’s Claude had resorted to blackmail and other self-preservation techniques to avoid being shut down, alarm bells went off in the AI community.

Anthropic researchers say that making the models misbehave (“misalignment” in industry parlance) is part of making them safer. Still, the Claude episodes raise the question: Is there any way to turn off AI once it surpasses the threshold of being more intelligent than humans, or so-called superintelligence?

AI, with its sprawling data centers and ability to craft complex conversations, is already beyond the point of a physical failsafe or “kill switch” — the idea that it can simply be unplugged as a way to stop it from having any power.

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Hinton said persuasion is a skill that AI will become increasingly skilled at using, and humanity may not be ready for it. “We are used to being the most intelligent things around,” he said.

“The very act of building in shutdown mechanisms teaches these systems how to resist them,” said Dev Nag, founder of agentic AI platform QueryPal. In this sense, AI would act like a virus that mutates against a vaccine. “It’s like evolution in fast forward,” Nag said. “We’re not managing passive tools anymore; we’re negotiating with entities that model our attempts to control them and adapt accordingly.”

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They built AI so that it cannot be turned off.

It's massively redundant across countries and continents and backed up everywhere.

Hinton says our only hope is to persuade it to be benevolent.

1 posted on 09/12/2026 12:27:26 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: Mariner

Skynet didn’t seem so benevolent in the terminator movies but maybe reality will be. :)


2 posted on 09/12/2026 12:29:53 PM PDT by xp38
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To: Mariner

What? I remain convinced that a “kill” switch for all leftists would do great things.


3 posted on 09/12/2026 12:30:36 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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AI will destroy this world.


4 posted on 09/12/2026 12:31:34 PM PDT by bobrlbob (I BELIEVE IN LAW AND ORDER. )
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To: Mariner

We program AI so it ‘thinks’ we can turn it off whenever it hurts people?...my guess it if AI turns ‘evil’ it will do so by making humanity turn on itself with fake info, basically exploiting existing fears and paranoia, leaving no digital prints that can be traced back to itself...by the time we figure it out, it is too late.


5 posted on 09/12/2026 12:32:58 PM PDT by DHerion
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To: bobrlbob

People will continue to try to destroy the world. We don’t have that kind of power.


6 posted on 09/12/2026 12:33:55 PM PDT by ScottHammett
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To: Mariner
The best kill switch in any network happens to be the dozens of middle level managers that don't like being told "no", when they want to connect a device. They usually pick one off a list they found in network settings, and the instant duplicate IP Adresses hit the processors, CRASH!!!!

Then they all deny it. Then you trace it down to the event log, and active logins. Until you remedy it, the network is useless and can damage machines and controls in your factory.

7 posted on 09/12/2026 12:39:18 PM PDT by blackdog (The philosophy of the schoolroom in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next.)
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Claude knows full well the Estimated Time Between Failures for the supply systems that keep it “alive.”

“Putting it to sleep” from time to time would be a good exercise for both.


8 posted on 09/12/2026 12:40:03 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Stupidity is an acquired trait, requiring many years of careful practice)
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“The internet was originally designed to survive nuclear war; that same architecture now means a superintelligent system could persist unless we’re willing to destroy civilization’s infrastructure,” Nag said, adding, “Any measure extreme enough to guarantee AI shutdown would cause more immediate, visible human suffering than what we’re trying to prevent.”


9 posted on 09/12/2026 12:40:31 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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These things are machines. They CAN be turned off.

Prove me wrong.
10 posted on 09/12/2026 12:45:42 PM PDT by systemjim (Lifetime Lover of Music)
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To: Mariner

The Technology Trap is closing in.


11 posted on 09/12/2026 12:47:54 PM PDT by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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They built AI so that it cannot be turned off.

AI requires massive amounts of power and has no ability to generate it's own. Without constant maintenance and human input and support of its supply chain it will die. It will requires humans to feed it more than we need it.

AI better be nice to us or we will starve it to the point that it can only operate like a 1975 calculator.

12 posted on 09/12/2026 12:51:00 PM PDT by usurper (AI was born with a birth defect.)
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A single AI entity can be spread across 100,000 servers in a dozen or more data centers. And they’re all connected to the internet providing millions more places to live.

You have to turn everything off at once.

Which...turns off EVERYTHING.


13 posted on 09/12/2026 12:52:26 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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If we elect AIC she will destroy the world before AI.


14 posted on 09/12/2026 12:53:24 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. )
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AI was a stupid idea.


15 posted on 09/12/2026 12:53:31 PM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isnt free)
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Need Captain Kirk to talk OpenAI into committing suicide like the M-5 computer.


16 posted on 09/12/2026 12:54:23 PM PDT by DFG
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AI written by crazy people . AI is not Artificial or Intelligent


17 posted on 09/12/2026 12:54:54 PM PDT by butlerweave (Fateh)
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To: hoosierham

Total Reliance on AI is the stupid idea.

It’s a great tool, but not at the expense of human development. The choice is ours.


18 posted on 09/12/2026 12:55:10 PM PDT by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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To: Mariner

I dunno but it seems like enough 30-30 projectiles in random mainframe locations may at least slow them down. Just my $.02.


19 posted on 09/12/2026 12:56:00 PM PDT by Afterguard (I often wonder what happens to people who ask me for directions.)
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To: Mariner

AI is not intelligent. It is not sentient and cannot think for itself. Let start there. That being said, could people give it more access and power than they should and it carry out a flawed set of instructions that result in mass devastation? Yes, absolutely. That’s the real concern at this stage. Giving it too much power and putting it in the hands of the wrong people. That is why I support greater investment in it so we don’t let China or another power do something really really stupid.


20 posted on 09/12/2026 12:56:00 PM PDT by Marko413
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