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Storing Green Energy to Last Germany 10 Days Would Require A 60-Million Tonne Battery
Watts Up With That ^ | 3/16/26 | P Gosselin

Posted on 03/16/2026 5:14:50 AM PDT by Renkluaf

An article at the European Institute for Climate & Energy (EIKE) website here takes a critical look at whether battery parks would be feasible to fully secure Germany’s weather-dependent power generation from wind and solar.

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10 days of buffer

To bridge a ten-day “Dunkelflaute” (dark doldrums) in winter with a 50 GW load, 12,000 GWh would be needed. This is 470 times the current total capacity and 2,800 times the current large-scale storage. Such a battery would weigh 60 million tons. A modern factory (like CATL in Thuringia) would theoretically need 857 years to produce this amount.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Germany; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: absurd; energy; europe; germany; green

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If Duracell starts tomorrow they can have it done by . . . /s
1 posted on 03/16/2026 5:14:50 AM PDT by Renkluaf
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To: Renkluaf

Maybe if they developed a technology to make it out of feathers it wouldn’t be so heavy???


2 posted on 03/16/2026 5:16:08 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Renkluaf

Does Germany really have an energy crisis every winter, or is this right wing propaganda?


3 posted on 03/16/2026 5:17:43 AM PDT by nwrep
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Will it look like the Obama library, or one really large strudel?
4 posted on 03/16/2026 5:19:25 AM PDT by Bernard ("Nothing is as expensive as that which the government provides for free." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Renkluaf

“Such a battery would weigh 60 million tons. A modern factory (like CATL in Thuringia) would theoretically need 857 years to produce this amount.”

And then there’s coal .... But the Net Zero cultists would rather freeze to death in a cave than use coal.


5 posted on 03/16/2026 5:22:16 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (Giving money & power to government is like giving whiskey & car keys to teenage boys. P. J. O'Rourk)
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To: Renkluaf

Imagine the cool fire a 60 ton battery would produce. It would be epic, then Germany would go dark for another millennium.


6 posted on 03/16/2026 5:23:10 AM PDT by cyclotic (Don’t be part of the problem. Be the entire problem)
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To: Renkluaf

The solution is actually rather simple. Germany should hire a bunch of Climate Change scientists to recalculate those values.

Because if Climate Change scientists are good at anything, they’re good at making up numbers to fit the narrative.

That should make the Greens happy again. For awhile, at least.


7 posted on 03/16/2026 5:23:35 AM PDT by Leaning Right (It's morning in America. Again.)
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To: Renkluaf

Ok Germans, just hold out a little bit longer and in 857 years Da Battery will be ready! After all this is a Government project and what could delay this?


8 posted on 03/16/2026 5:24:47 AM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show host to me.... Sting)
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To: Renkluaf

I don’t want to be around when that thing melts down.


9 posted on 03/16/2026 5:25:19 AM PDT by beef (The pendulum will not swing back. It will snap back. Hard.)
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To: nwrep

Neither. Because Germany remains dependent on natural gas and gas built up its LNG importation infrastructure. If they were to achieve their net-zero goal their economy would crash either during a cold dark period or a summer heat wave.


10 posted on 03/16/2026 5:28:43 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative. )
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To: Renkluaf

On a micro-level, I’ve done the same sort of arithmetic for my own home. It made much, much more sense to use gasoline or natural gas as an energy store than it did batteries.


11 posted on 03/16/2026 5:30:57 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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To: Renkluaf

If it truly takes 857 years to produce the batteries that Germany needs, the had better get busy building it to get it done some time this millennium.


12 posted on 03/16/2026 5:44:21 AM PDT by srmanuel
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To: Renkluaf

Or... they could promote distributed power and provide suggestions/assistance for the various cities, villages, and townships.

centralized design is always the worst option.


13 posted on 03/16/2026 5:50:17 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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How much energy does it take to build a factory to build a battery pack that would take 857 years to make and require about 14000 GWh of energy (from where?) to fully charge that battery pack just so it could supply 12000 GWh of energy for 10 days to Germany?

Hmmm, just build some nuke plants, dummies.


14 posted on 03/16/2026 5:53:15 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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Where would they get the electricity even charge such a battery? Since current demand would consume most of the generated energy, only the excess power would be available charging. Wouldn’t they require a hella bunch of excess electrical capacity before they could build such a ginormous brick?


15 posted on 03/16/2026 5:57:57 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves.)
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To: Renkluaf

The question on my mind has to do with German Railroads.

Does Germany have enough wind and solar generated electricity to even run the railroads?


16 posted on 03/16/2026 5:59:04 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Quid Quid Nominatur Fabricatur)
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To: Renkluaf

60-Million Tons of stupidity


17 posted on 03/16/2026 6:08:06 AM PDT by butlerweave (Fateh)
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To: SharpRightTurn

I am willing to sell Germany all the carbon credits they need to reach “net zero”.

EC


18 posted on 03/16/2026 6:11:12 AM PDT by Ex-Con777 ("Journalism is about covering important stories-with a pillow, until they stop moving." ~ David Burg)
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To: Bernard

My comment at the site: A serious issue with the battery bank is the probability of burning out. The probability of any one cell self-immolating while charging or discharging is quite low. However, stacking the billions necessary into a large enough storage area to hold the necessary KWH of energy makes the probability of burning up to be 1.0. Spreading them out would lessen the damage but increase the land area and copper requirements.


19 posted on 03/16/2026 6:21:12 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Observation & experiment are the only means of new knowledge. All else is poetry-Max Planck)
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To: Renkluaf

Just as soon as the finish their candle powered ice maker.


20 posted on 03/16/2026 6:24:45 AM PDT by Vaduz (NEVER TRUST A DEMOCRAT)
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