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2 DOGE staffers say 'no' regrets for people losing income, didn't reduce the deficit: Depositions
ABC News | Disney ^ | March 14, 2026 | By Peter Charalambous

Posted on 03/15/2026 4:22:21 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

One year after Elon Musk began an unprecedented attempt to eliminate swaths of the federal government, newly released deposition videos are providing a never-before-seen look at two of the people responsible for the largest mass termination of federal grants in the National Endowment for the Humanities' history.

In lengthy depositions, two DOGE employees -- Justin Fox and Nate Cavanaugh -- defended the effort to cut "useless agencies" as part of DOGE's attempt to reduce the federal deficit.

"You don't regret that people might have lost important income ... to support their lives?" an attorney asked Cavanaugh about the grant cancellations.

"No. I think it was more important to reduce the federal deficit from $2 trillion to close to zero," Cavanaugh said.

"Do you think it's inappropriate in any way that someone in their 20s with no experience with grants for the federal government was making personal judgment calls about what grants to cancel?" an attorney asked.

"Um, no. I don't think it's inappropriate," Cavanaugh said, arguing that he did not need formal education or experience to make informed judgments.

"So presumably you read some of these books that would have informed you on how to cancel a grant based on DEI," the attorney asked.

"Um, I did not read a book, um, on how to discern whether a grant includes DEI or not. I read the actual description of the actual grant," Cavanaugh said.

Fox said they instead turned to OpenAI's ChatGPT to help sift through the thousands of grants awarded by the National Endowment for the Humanities.

Both Fox and Cavanaugh defended the funding decisions, arguing the cuts were necessary to reduce the deficit, though they never achieved their goals.

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1 posted on 03/15/2026 4:22:21 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
No. I think it was more important to reduce the federal deficit from $2 trillion to close to zero," Cavanaugh said.

?

2 posted on 03/15/2026 4:24:17 AM PDT by Fury
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Every single taxpayer loses when fraud, waste, and abuse take over a government that is supposed to be serving them.


3 posted on 03/15/2026 4:27:57 AM PDT by alancarp (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

>> people responsible for the largest mass termination of federal grants in the National Endowment for the Humanities’ history

OH NO! How could they do such a thing? HOW SHALL WE PUNISH THEM??!?

(My suggestion is to give them the American Freedom Medal.)


4 posted on 03/15/2026 4:29:05 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Hope, as a righteous product of properly aligned Faith, IS in fact a strategy.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Why should we pay people to sit around and twiddle their thumbs.


5 posted on 03/15/2026 4:30:03 AM PDT by yldstrk
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To: Fury

>> ?

Pretty obvious to me what he is saying. What’s your question with it?


6 posted on 03/15/2026 4:30:53 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Hope, as a righteous product of properly aligned Faith, IS in fact a strategy.)
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To: alancarp

Funding the humanities, while worthy, is not something the federal government should do.

I see this all the time and it makes my blood boil………we got this grant to do X, isn’t it wonderful???!!


7 posted on 03/15/2026 4:31:26 AM PDT by SteelPSUGOP (UGHT)
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To: Fury
"You don't regret that people might have lost important income ... to support their lives?" an attorney asked Cavanaugh about the grant cancellations.

It is not the function of the Federal Government to supply citizens with income, you miserable twit.

It is the function of government to insure that the citizens have a safe environment where they can provide their own income free of violence, fraud or theft.

When it becomes the job of government to supply citizens income, fraud is ensured.

8 posted on 03/15/2026 4:32:19 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Nervous Tick

What was the deficit reduced to?


9 posted on 03/15/2026 4:33:08 AM PDT by Fury
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To: yldstrk

Let the Soros foundation fit the bill!
Let the rich pay!


10 posted on 03/15/2026 4:35:09 AM PDT by AZJeep (sane )
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To: Fury

>> What was the deficit reduced to?

No clue, and I don’t intend to look it up, but it’s irrelevant.

He didn’t say he did, or would, reduce it to any particular number. He said it was more important to do it, and he’s absolutely right. GOD bless DOGE for WORKING on the problem!


11 posted on 03/15/2026 4:36:57 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Hope, as a righteous product of properly aligned Faith, IS in fact a strategy.)
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To: Fury

Meaning: they were working toward that as a goal


12 posted on 03/15/2026 4:39:52 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Warning: Accused of being a radical militarist. Approach with caution.)
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To: Nervous Tick

I consider goals and objectives to be pretty important. They had at least a general idea of what they were trying to do. So that was good.

And one of the staffers being deposed answered the question on if their work helped reduce the deficit.

He said it hadn’t.


13 posted on 03/15/2026 4:44:56 AM PDT by Fury
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Income” taken from taxpayers by threat of gunpoint? Uh, no.

Unfortunately, however, the Trump admin is arranging MORE immigration to “lower (American) wages”: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/15/us/politics/farm-labor-trump-migrant-workers-h2a.html


14 posted on 03/15/2026 4:46:43 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

There should be no national endowment for anything, as long as it uses extorted tax dollars.
The private sector will take care of worthy causes, all on its own.


15 posted on 03/15/2026 4:47:02 AM PDT by Fireone (1. Avoid crowds 2.Head on a swivel 3.Be prepared to protect & defend those around you 4.Avoid crowds)
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To: Fireone

There is a precedent for the private sector doing more when Federal dollars stop.

PBS and NPR.

With that Federal funding now gone, private has stepped up and filled most of the void.

So it can be done.


16 posted on 03/15/2026 4:51:31 AM PDT by Fury
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To: Fireone

So many people grift from the forced-to-pay taxes people. Of course these parasites feel that it is their right to receive “funding” for their usually BS project whatever it may be.

DOGE should get praised for their work...and supported moving forward.

The parasite class munching on the piles of taxpayers’ money have no shame and feel self-entitled.


17 posted on 03/15/2026 4:52:18 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
--- "...people might have lost important income...."

There's such a lovely spin there, eh? In "important income" goes along with government paying it, why not just PAY EVERYONE with government money?

After all, "people" do "something" and its all "important."

How about the law firm spouting this nonsense make up for the "important income" lost by paying for it themselves?

18 posted on 03/15/2026 4:53:44 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: 9YearLurker
“Income” taken from taxpayers by threat of gunpoint? Uh, no.

Tax_protester_history_in_the_United_States
19 posted on 03/15/2026 4:55:17 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 ( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I feel bad for the taxpayers working honest jobs to fund government fraud, waste and abuse. They have families too.

I do not feel bad for the looters.


20 posted on 03/15/2026 5:00:37 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (The pandemic we suffer from is not COVID. It is Marxist Democrat Leftism. )
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