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Ruby Ridge Reckoning Reveals Lessons for ICE (barf alert)
Yahoo ^ | March 5, 2026 | Marc Levin & Khalil Cumberbatch

Posted on 03/13/2026 6:40:28 PM PDT by DoodleBob

In August 1992, six U.S. marshals set out to arrest Idaho survivalist Randy Weaver over a missed court date on a firearms charge, partly caused by a clerical error. What followed was an 11-day standoff and three deaths - including a federal officer. The siege became known as "Ruby Ridge." The imbroglio triggered calls for reform, particularly among conservative figures like Rush Limbaugh.

Today, it is ICE raids that are generating similar calls for change - loudest on the left. Amid operations that too often end in violence, congressional efforts to find bipartisan agreement on safeguards can draw inspiration from the reforms Ruby Ridge spurred. Those changes allow federal agents to keep enforcing the law while better protecting constitutional rights.

Following the Idaho raid, Senate hearings in 1995 revealed breakdowns in command structure, communication, and rules of engagement. The Justice Departments internal review found that the FBIs rules of engagement - which effectively authorized shooting armed adult males on sight - violated both department policy and constitutional standards. Officials were deemed "remarkably uncritical" in approving those rules, and the operations commander had exercised "inadequate control."

Fast-forward to 2025, and similar constitutional concerns have emerged around immigration enforcement. ICE routinely uses administrative warrants signed by immigration officials rather than judges. Unlike criminal warrants requiring judicial review under the Fourth Amendments probable cause standard, these administrative warrants are issued by ICE staff and need not be approved by a neutral magistrate. Agency rules do not even require that staff issuing them be attorneys.

When federal agents can enter homes based on paperwork they issued themselves, a critical check the Founders built into the Constitution is eliminated. The Fourth Amendment does not distinguish between citizens and non-citizens, and the Supreme Court has consistently held its protections apply to everyone on U.S. soil.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ice; rubyridge
I’m sorry.

If the FBI treated the Weavers the way ICE agents treated illegals or protesters, Lon Horiuchi wouldn’t have assasinated Vicki Weaver.

1 posted on 03/13/2026 6:40:28 PM PDT by DoodleBob
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To: DoodleBob

You said it. RIP Vicki.


2 posted on 03/13/2026 6:50:38 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: DoodleBob

Well said.

L


3 posted on 03/13/2026 6:51:57 PM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: DoodleBob

More cold blooded killing of innocents by feral government employees.

Lon Horiuchi and Michael Byrd - government paid assassins.


4 posted on 03/13/2026 6:52:32 PM PDT by Iron Munro (When politicians say "FOR THE GREATER GOOD" it means good for them, bad for us)
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To: DoodleBob
"The Fourth Amendment does not distinguish between citizens and non-citizens..."

BS!
The Constitution was written solely to protect the rights of American citizens...

5 posted on 03/13/2026 6:56:36 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is rabble-rising Sam Adams now that we need him? Is his name Trump, now?)
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To: SuperLuminal

Illegals need to go home on their own or be sent home... to compare the two events is nuts.


6 posted on 03/13/2026 7:06:43 PM PDT by GOPJ (Trump's a Rorschach: for good or ill people see thier hidden selves in him. Protector? Bully? Savior)
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To: SuperLuminal
"The Fourth Amendment does not distinguish between citizens and non-citizens..."

The 4A says "people" and the left runs with it, as if the term had not been defined in the Preamble as "We the People of the United States." They play the same game with the term "person" as stated in other elements of the BOR.

Unfortunately, the Preamble has been largely forgotten in the SCOTUS, this despite that it is the defining statement of the social contract that is the Constitution. It's LONG past time to fix that.

7 posted on 03/13/2026 7:27:07 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: Iron Munro
Lon Horiuchi and Michael Byrd - government paid assassins.

These names and what they did should not be forgotten.

8 posted on 03/13/2026 7:32:22 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: DoodleBob

Exactly!

It was a very stupid comparison for Levin and Cumberbatch to make.


9 posted on 03/13/2026 7:53:27 PM PDT by TigersEye (Are the RINOs helping the Democrats with their color revolution?)
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To: DoodleBob

It is specious for the author to compare Ruby Ridge with the ICE activity.


10 posted on 03/13/2026 8:16:27 PM PDT by telescope115 (Ad Astra, Ad Deum…)
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To: DoodleBob

Yahoo BS


11 posted on 03/13/2026 8:32:45 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: DoodleBob

They turn everything around to suit their arguments.


12 posted on 03/13/2026 8:36:27 PM PDT by cherry
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To: DoodleBob

“Amid operations that too often end in violence,“

That’s entirely up to the illegal invaders of this country. It would be absurd to allow them to hold us hostage by threatening violence.


13 posted on 03/14/2026 6:45:48 AM PDT by TalBlack (Their god is government. Prepare for a religious war.https://freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=4322961%2)
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