Posted on 12/05/2025 4:04:42 AM PST by Fish Speaker
WASHINGTON — The results of four command investigations related to serious mishaps during the Harry S. Truman carrier strike group’s recent deployment point to inadequate training and poor performance by ship crews as well as their commanders, according to newly released Navy investigation reports.
The reports, which were heavily redacted for public consumption, paint a picture of strike group sailors and officers who erred in their judgment and failed to communicate properly while under exceedingly high pressure and operational tempo as the strike group was conducting operations to counter Houthi rebel attacks in and around the Red Sea.
The investigations released today cover the Dec. 22 incident involving the cruiser Gettysburg (CG-64) firing missiles at friendly F/A-18s, a Feb. 12 collision with the commercial vessel Besiktas-M, and two incidents in the spring when F/A-18s fell off the ship into the ocean. Some sailors sustained injuries from the mishaps, but there were no casualties.
A senior Navy official that spoke to reporters said the service had learned from its high-profile mistakes, including through the establishment of the Office of Warfighting Advantage which is specifically tasked with ensuring lessons from mishaps are incorporated into future training.
“I can’t tell you with full confidence that we’ve addressed every single thing that can happen. That’s why we’re inquisitive and open to understanding when something happens, and doing the new cause analysis to try to make sure that we prevent that from happening again,” the official said.
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Cruiser Gettysburg (CG-64) firing missiles at friendly F/A-18s,collision with the commercial vessel Besiktas-M, and two incidents in the spring when F/A-18s fell off the ship into the ocean.
Firing missiles at F/A-18s (more than one F-18?) and F/A-18s (more than one F-18?) fell off the ship is a problem.
They appear to want to speed up moving to the F-35 as they are shooting the F-18’s out of the sky and pushing them into the ocean.
Women + DEI st00pits = fail. In most things, but especially in the military.
Not a theory, a fact of life, instinctively understood throughout history, but lost on our modernist societal manipulators. Even a lot of FReepers, who should know better.
We’ll re-learn this lessson the hard way next time America fights a REAL war... which we haven’t done in 80 years.
Clue: Raining Ratheon and Lockheed on sand-apes and 3rd world s**tholes isn’t a real war.
How did Women + DEI have anything to do with this mishap?
Not generalizations, but specific actions.
Yup—the military (and politics) are subject to the “rules” that date back many thousands of years....
What matters most is who not what.
In America today you have to fight your way through a wall of lies and coverups to find....
DEI.
My son served as an ABH on the Truman 15-ish years ago for 4 deployments. He left the Navy after 8 years because of the DEI advancement practices. The bros made sure the other bros got the promotions, even if their scores on everything were lower. Advancement in the military is not a meritocracy.
I get that.
Was asking about the mishap of the military aircraft.
This article says nothing. Echaustion or incompetence? Can’t just say human error.
What is the fix? Sleep, different hires, training, or better thought out tasks for these ships by upper upper?
DEI, caused by weak men.
Even without DEI, the affluent post-Biblical culture fosters lack of character, unlike the era of the so-called Greatest Generation (if somewhat beyond people born from 1901 to 1927) that fought WW2 and put men on the moon, yet many of whose children (I am one) began the rebellion against Biblical values and culture.
Anyone who has been in or around Military Aviation (4 years in Army AVN Bde) knows the Spring Loaded Default Setting for accidents is “Pilot Error”. Not saying it is wrong, just there.
Females are the majority of voters and eligible voters, in politics and government their influence is felt and responded to as history shows in the military and especially in the military during the changes since they removed the female quota limits around 1972 or so.
Males can’t just say the way things are going to be and that is that.
So, you think women can fight but men can’t.
You’re a weak man.
Watching those videos I sometimes see the aircraft come very close to the edge and I wonder if it's gonna go overboard.One can assume that there were at least one or two court martials in this case,
Trump’s fault!!
LOL, while your first post made no sense, this one is just crazy, are the men supposed to beat up the females in the military and congress and presidents?
What are you even talking about?
I’ll give you a hint - think of the military as a beehive. Introducing harmful vectors demonstrably affects production or possibly ruins the hive altogether.
Rolling a fighter onto the deck of a carrier is the result of countless thousands, or even millions, of decisions and interactions. Inserting low IQ DEI types and dopey, disruptive, sentimentalist women into that process corrupts or hobbles it altogether... regardless of who’s in the cockpit or who’s piloting the ship at the time the consequences of our modernism and stupidity are brought to bear.
One dirty secret never covered over by our trash media and incompetent leadership is women crash planes - military and civilian - at a rate dangerously higher than men. Another inconvenient fact is blacks mostly suck as leaders, especially in fields where high technical aptitude is required.
Our military is a shitpile right now because of who we forced into the ranks and leadership. The perpetual string of failures, crashes, naval incidents are a result of our collective hubris.
Well then.
You seem to have hit on the real problem.
Is the solution to the problem you’ve outlined as obvious to you as it is to This Guy?
The reports, which were heavily redacted for public consumption, paint a picture of strike group sailors and officers who erred in their judgment and failed to communicate properly while under exceedingly high pressure and operational tempo as the strike group was conducting operations to counter Houthi rebel attacks in and around the Red Sea.
Is there an uptick in the amount of incompetence in the military? Just take a look at the officers are academies are producing.
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