Posted on 12/04/2025 5:59:25 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
Emmanuel Macron has reportedly warned Volodymyr Zelenskyy that “there is a chance that the US will betray Ukraine on territory, without clarity on security guarantees”, the German magazine Der Spiegel reported, quoting a leaked note from a recent call with several European leaders.
Der Spiegel said it had obtained an English summary of Monday’s call, featuring what it said were direct quotations from European heads of government in which they expressed fundamental doubts about Washington’s approach to the talks.
The French president described the current tense phase of the negotiations as harbouring “a big danger” for Ukraine’s embattled president, according to the summary. Germany’s chancellor, Friedrich Merz, reportedly added that the Ukrainian leader needed to be “very careful”.
“They are playing games with both you and us,” Merz was reported as telling him – a remark the magazine concluded was a reference to a diplomatic mission to Moscow this week by President Donald Trump’s envoy Steve Witkoff and son-in-law Jared Kushner.
The magazine said other leaders also voiced their concerns, with Finland’s Alexander Stubb, who has bonded with Trump over golf, reportedly warning “we must not leave Ukraine and Volodymyr alone with these guys”.
Even the Nato secretary general, Mark Rutte – who in public is very complimentary of Trump – reportedly said he agreed with Stubb “that we need to protect Volodymyr”.
Der Spiegel said it spoke with “several” participants of the call, who confirmed it took place, and two of them reportedly said the remarks were “accurately reproduced”.
A spokesperson for Zelenskyy declined to comment, as did Merz’s office, while the Élysée Palace contested the quotes attributed to Macron. Der Spiegel said Rutte’s office had declined to comment.
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Macron’s wife has a “Dick” no wonder he’s so uptight
He married a tranny that punched his face in public.
Trump wants to end the war regardless of the future consequences of rewarding Putin’s aggression. Europe does not agree, as it remembers the lessons of giving Hitler the Sudetenland. Appeasement encourages further aggression.
curse words
Putin well-learned the lesson of Munich and the Sudetenland. He learned that a determined expansionist aggressor has to face a willingness to act militarily.
The NATO expansion, the nazi coup in Kiev we executed, the Kiev attacks on the Donbass, the ruse of Minsk II. He learned it was either act to stop the DC/London axis, or accept they would not stop and he would have to love with the results forever. So he rolled.
DC and London was mystified at someone who meant what they said.
As Reagan would say, "There you go again"
Europe conducted four years of silence, which is the same as condoning what was going on. They only opened their mouths when President Trump decided American tax payers were no longer going to finance this proxy war. It was never our war to begin with. It was Europe's and as usual, they failed miserably.
You aren’t fit to shine Reagan’s shoes.
In 2014 when the Kiev coup happened, they needed to try to grab the eastern regions that opted out of the coup and took control of their own areas.
Second, the Kiev junta really needed to get those surly nazi militias out of town fast. You don’t need them standing around watching when the new politicians sit down.
So they attacked the Donbass. It’s well-documented history sport.
And macron betrayed his own people by genociding them with open borders and muslim invasion
In other words, they attacked those who were fomenting revolution with Russian support on Ukrainian soil. They didn’t invade Russia.
The US may betray the most corrupt group of Pirates and Thieves on the Planet?
Then Screw 'em Again even Harder!
EU ‘elites’ should have stepped in with money and weapons if they wanted to defend Ukraine. The place isn’t our problem. They didn’t hire our sons or launder our money and we don’t owe them crap.. Maybe Biden and Hunter can send them some cash.
When you throw a coup, that is taking the government by force. Despite all the sophistry, that is what we created in Kiev.
When you execute a coup, you do not inherit everything the government you killed owned. You only own what you can take by force. The reason? Everyone else has the same right to take possession of their own areas by force, just as you did.
If a communist Biden junta took over DC by force, Texas is not obligated to salute and recognize them.
Our nation stands tall on this principle. We broke Kosovo away from Serbia for the benefit of the moslems. We bombed the hell out of Serbia for 3 months to help Kosovo break away.
We grabbed the oil rich NE quadrant of Syria and flew years of air raids and deployed soldiers to enforce the right of the Kurds as a breakaway area from Syria.
We did that at the exact moment we said the Donbass could not declare independence and seek foreign assistance.
Guess it’s a real bitch when you get back what you have been giving out.
The deep state does not want the war to end.
You must think seizing a capitol means you now own the whole country. It don’t work that way.
I hope you are ok with the Texas Revolution. Guess that was wrong of them to foment revolution on Mexican soil and all. /s
Putin invaded mostly because European leadership long with Biden were projecting nothing but weakness and ham-handed and self-serving corrupt idiocy. Now you believe that Europeans are somehow wiser than President Trump who projects strength and power? None of this would have happened if President Trump had not been cheated out of the presidency, by the same group that is basically responsible for setting up the factors which resulted in a war which has already basically killed or maimed most of Ukraine's young men and destroyed the country. I love to hear wishy washy mealy-mouthed apologists Euro-weenie homo trash which are letting their countries be over-run by Muslim invaders imply that they have more insight than President Trump.
This group should take this line of BS somewhere else; it is not flying here these days.
I agree 100%
It’s obvious that Macron hates Trump and it has nothing to do with Ukraine.
The Guardian -a global joke run by deluded leftist children, just move on.
That comment is proof you're idiot.
The Ukrainian army is collapsing. Ukraine has two choices: 1) Take the best deal Trump can work out or 2) Lose everything east of the Dnieper river and Odessa and more lives.
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