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The New York Times sues the Pentagon over Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth’s media rules
The Associated Press ^ | December 4, 2025 | BY DAVID BAUDER

Posted on 12/04/2025 10:20:29 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

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1 posted on 12/04/2025 10:20:29 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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The newspaper said the rules violate the Constitution’s freedom of speech

Wouldn't that be Hegseth's FoS?

I think the NYT is aiming for Freedom to Listen.

2 posted on 12/04/2025 10:29:15 AM PST by NonValueAdded (First, I was a clinger, then deplorable, now I'm garbage. Feel the love? )
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The New York times left the Pentagon, because they refused new rules that restricted their free range to any office in the pentagon. They left, no one kicked them out.

Who in their right mind allowed the press to walk into any office of the Pentagon?
That was a security hole that was very properly closed by Hegseth.


3 posted on 12/04/2025 10:30:55 AM PST by Toughluck_freeper
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I thought it was now the Dept of War.


4 posted on 12/04/2025 10:32:04 AM PST by pfflier
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

What, they’re suing a five-sided building?


5 posted on 12/04/2025 10:35:44 AM PST by bigbob (We are all Charlie Kirk now)
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The Times is citing Wilson’s “propagandists” comment as evidence that the Pentagon is discriminating against reporters for their points of view.

Ah, so they finally admit they have points of view in their supposedly non-partisan unbiased reporting? And on the record too! Progress!

6 posted on 12/04/2025 10:42:20 AM PST by pepsi_junkie ("We want no Gestapo or Secret Police. F. B. I. is tending in that direction." - Harry S Truman)
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“The American people don’t trust these propagandists because they stopped telling the truth,” Wilson said. “So, we’re not going to beg these old gatekeepers to come back and we’re not rebuilding a broken model just to appease them.”

I like the response.

And here's my question...

Can we trusting news consumers SUE the NYT for failing to tell the complete truth when they know it, and calling themselves a "news" agency?

7 posted on 12/04/2025 10:47:27 AM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never, never, never...in nothing, great or small...Winston ChurchIill)
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The newspaper said the rules violate the Constitution’s freedom of speech and due process provisions,

I've read the constitution and never seen the section where it says "The Pentagon must grant access to the media without restrictions."

8 posted on 12/04/2025 10:49:49 AM PST by usurper (AI was born with a birth defect.)
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You obviously are not a lawyer. They can twist anything into whatever they want it to be.


9 posted on 12/04/2025 10:54:08 AM PST by GMThrust
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Due process?? Seriously? What have they been charged with?? (I know, but Partisan Prevarication still isn’t a crime in most places)


10 posted on 12/04/2025 11:03:36 AM PST by alancarp (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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Propaganda agents in media outlets being banished from the building.

Good deal for truth in media reporting.

Looking out for the small guy ensues.


11 posted on 12/04/2025 11:19:51 AM PST by Vaduz (?.)
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They want free rein of the building to continue to eavesdrop and encourage leakers.

Nah. You register and sit where we tell you. You can ask questions but you can’t come and go from the Pentagon like you own it.


12 posted on 12/04/2025 11:21:56 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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A coordinated blitzkrieg to take out Pete Hegseth. Never has a cabinet member been so hated and targeted in my lifetime, which proves he is the right man.


13 posted on 12/04/2025 11:22:13 AM PST by montag813
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The Times is citing Wilson’s “propagandists” comment as evidence that the Pentagon is discriminating against reporters for their points of view.
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The last time I checked the Constitution’s guaranty of freedom of the press protects the things which press outlets SAY, but says nothing about access to top secret military installations or to military personnel.


14 posted on 12/04/2025 11:26:13 AM PST by nagant
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The Judge Shopping has already happened, I’m sure.


15 posted on 12/04/2025 11:28:09 AM PST by oldplayer
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Hegseth could avoid this whole issue if he didn’t ban the NYT. He then could refuse to take questions from the NYT which would have the same effect as a ban but is not unconstitutional.


16 posted on 12/04/2025 11:37:34 AM PST by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Trump & Vance, 2024! (Formerly) Goldwater & Thomas Sowell)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

But if someone reviews the leaks and phony stories they might find out who is leaking to the NYT.


17 posted on 12/04/2025 11:49:29 AM PST by Organic Panic ('Was I molested. I think so' - Ashley Biden in response to her father joining her in the shower)
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Hegseth represents the office of the president. He is authorized to do so and speaks for the president under that situation. So suing him is like suing the guy who dips the ice cream at Baskin Robbins. So the times can wait their turn in line.

wy69


18 posted on 12/04/2025 11:53:58 AM PST by whitney69 (`)
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NY Slimes is missing reporting opportunities. They’re not the big kids on the playground anymore.


19 posted on 12/04/2025 12:02:26 PM PST by gildafarrell ("To Strive, To Seek, To Find and Not To Yield!")
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I hate to say this but the NYT will win.


20 posted on 12/04/2025 12:19:45 PM PST by Sir_Humphrey (I'll support Trump when I think he's right. I'll oppose him when I think he's wrong. As it should be)
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