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OpenAI loses fight to keep ChatGPT logs secret in copyright case
Reuters ^ | 12 03 2025 | Blake Brittain

Posted on 12/04/2025 5:49:19 AM PST by yesthatjallen

OpenAI must produce millions of anonymized chat logs from ChatGPT users in its high-stakes copyright dispute with the New York Times (NYT.N), and other news outlets, a federal judge in Manhattan ruled.

U.S. Magistrate Judge Ona Wang in a decision made public on Wednesday said, that the 20 million logs were relevant to the outlets' claims and that handing them over would not risk violating users' privacy.

The judge rejected OpenAI's privacy-related objections to an earlier order requiring the artificial intelligence startup to submit the records as evidence. "There are multiple layers of protection in this case precisely because of the highly sensitive and private nature of much of the discovery," Wang said.

An OpenAI spokesperson on Wednesday cited an earlier blog post from the company's Chief Information Security Officer Dane Stuckey, which said the Times' demand for the chat logs "disregards long-standing privacy protections" and "breaks with common-sense security practices."

OpenAI has separately appealed Wang's order to the case's presiding judge, U.S. District Judge Sidney Stein.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chatgpt; openai; privacy

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1 posted on 12/04/2025 5:49:19 AM PST by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen

Another reminder/ warning that whatever you feed into the belly of that beast known as The Internet stays somewhere within The Internet, available for harvest like so much low hanging, overripe fruit.


2 posted on 12/04/2025 5:56:28 AM PST by lee martell
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To: yesthatjallen

Should be able to use AI to identify the authors of the chats.


3 posted on 12/04/2025 6:06:45 AM PST by PAR35 (I)
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To: yesthatjallen
Any result of LLMs scraping texts from all around the internet is only one degree removed from plagiarism, an offense though generally not a crime.

What is a ( civil) tort is the citation of another's work as if your own, by actually copying whole amounts of copyrighted text(s).

That is actionable, and redress in the form of judgments against the "plagiarist" can be monetary penalties.

I wager we will be seeing more and more of these sorts of suits.

4 posted on 12/04/2025 7:13:18 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: yesthatjallen

There are multiple layers of protection in this case.

Kind of like the recording you hear as the plane is nose diving.
THIS PLANE IS FAILSAFE FAILSAFE FAILSAFE......................


5 posted on 12/04/2025 7:39:12 AM PST by Vaduz (?.)
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To: yesthatjallen

They scrape copyrighted material and use it. Hope this seriously hurts AI.


6 posted on 12/04/2025 7:44:16 AM PST by DesertRhino (When men on the chessboard, get up and tell you where to go…)
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To: yesthatjallen

Kind of funny one of the AI companies trying to claim privacy. Like an arsonist complaining about a fire hazard.


7 posted on 12/04/2025 7:51:27 AM PST by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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