Posted on 12/02/2025 3:29:28 AM PST by marktwain
PHOENIX — Police say a man and an 8-year-old girl have died, and two others were seriously injured after a shooting in a parking lot in South Phoenix on Saturday.
The incident occurred around 2:45 p.m., near 19th Avenue and Baseline Road.
Witnesses tell police they saw a man, identified as 28-year-old Tyrone Dee Chilly, and the driver of an SUV, identified as 30-year-old Quincy Jay Polk, exit their vehicles and engage in a physical altercation.
A woman and three children were also inside Polk's SUV during the altercation.
At one point, Polk and Chilly returned to their own vehicles, where, according to the paperwork, Chilly retrieved a handgun.
Chilly then fired multiple shots in the direction of the driver's seat of the SUV, court paperwork states. The woman in the passenger seat exited the SUV and returned gunfire before falling to the ground.
A third vehicle in the area was reportedly also struck by gunfire, but neither of the occupants of that vehicle was hurt.
According to court documents, Chilly then called 911 and said that he had shot someone.
Polk was pronounced dead at the scene from a gunshot wound.
Chilly was taken to a hospital for treatment of his injuries, as well as the woman and two of the children who were shot in the SUV. A third child in the SUV was not injured.
A day after the shooting, police confirmed that one of the children, 8-year-old Envy Cardenas, died from her injuries.
ABC15 spoke with the mother and grandmother of the two killed.
“I don't have just one funeral. I got two funerals,” Polks’ mother, Joesra Martin, said. "I ain't never gonna be able to celebrate the holidays. I'm not be able to celebrate Thanksgiving again, because I ain't gonna be able to look at it the same.”
"All over what? Over nothing, over road rage. Come on, that makes no sense.” Martin said. “You had a fight. Just go home, leave it alone."
The Polk family has created a GoFundMe account to help raise money for funeral expenses.
Chilly was released from the hospital on Sunday and was booked into jail. He faces charges that include two counts of murder, three counts of aggravated assault and two counts of endangerment.
Anyone with information or who may have witnessed what led to the shooting is asked to call 911 or the Phoenix Police Department. You can also call Silent Witness at 480-WITNESS or 480-TESTIGO, or submit a tip at Silentwitness.org, to remain anonymous.
Officials say the investigation remains ongoing.
Some people lack impulse control.
Not scared of prison anymore
Phoenix used to be pretty safe.
Unfortunately, since Obama and then Biden DOJ decided to help us to solve first our sheriff and later our police department racial profiling, we are toast!
Progressive mayor is no help either.
I am wondering, if and where to move?
“some people.”
As a kid I lived for 11 years in Florida where it was common to hear this expression from grownups when a situation like this arose:
“You can take the ‘boy’ out of the country, but you can’t take the country out of the ‘boy’.”
Learning what I have about genetics, breeding, culture across the next 50 years, this is as simplistic a summary of breeding for desirable traits as I have ever come across.
It’s said that breeding four generations of dog for, say, hair texture/color will continue producing that “strain” of pup.
“Those people” were selected, and selectively bred for many more generations that that and continue to do so by self-selection.
Notice I haven’t typed one word about skin color.
“I am wondering, if and where to move?”
A bunch of us folks would invite to the bucolic crime-free areas up here except you wouldn’t like the weather. You know, a foot a snow on the ground even before December...lake effect and all that.
My standard formula:
For some offenses, prison may still make sense. But as a general rule, warehousing people is stupid. Prisons should exist but should be used sparingly.
For a lot of first offenders, corporal punishment (caning) should be used to discourage future offenses. Singapore knows how to cane people pretty brutally. This is a good and effective punishment.
Serious offenses should just result in capital punishment. No one should ever spend more than 5 years of their life in prison. Repeat offenders, or serious offenders, should just be removed from society. We have no population shortage. And the number of really bad people is actually pretty small. Just get rid of them and make society better.
Yep. Took the words right out of my mouth. Idaho is a fine , safe place to live, but could be a tough adjustment for an Arizonan. You won’t find many Dee Chillys causing such havoc here.
We have a low security prison near us. It’s a working farm. Prisoners can probably walk out if they wish. But it is not near anything and the incentive to stay there is very high. It’s a prison that prisoners try to get in.
The closest thing to it is an Amish Market and we eat with the guards sometimes. It’s a pretty easy gig for everybody. I’ve thought about going there and teaching classes now that I am retired.
I wouldn’t mind if all prisons were like that. Then the question becomes: For this particular prisoner, with a history of violence, would it be safe to have him work on a little farm from which he could probably walk out? No? Well, then lets hang him. But the guys who are convicted of petty theft can spend a year or two on the farm, no problem.
Is that his Rap Name?
The incentive to behave is still there unlike a higher security facility. They don’t want to get “sold to the bad master”. They know their behavior can keep them there. You can escape but to where? Very few people in prison can survive in the woods very long. You can hike out to Trent’s Grocery (famous on the Appalachian Trail) but everyone there is armed because they sell guns. Anyone walking on that road without a backpack is a red flag.
We need to create cluster prisons. Multiple facilities with no more than 200 people clustered in the middle of nowhere. No social experimentation.
The Pribilof Islands are nice this time of year.
Where us “up here”?
Not only high on something, but armed, as well. It’s scary thinking about it.
that part of town has always been a shithole. I worked at a manufacturing plant down there 30 some years ago. If we were working late, we couldn’t get a pizza delivered, even back then.
It is a paradox to me how the Somalians from a desert country live in Minnesota where it snows 4 months a year.
Greenland comes to mind. No gates, no walls.
Let them walk away if they want.
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