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Trump wants Germany to take over Nato
The Telegraph ^ | 19 November 2025 | James Rothwell

Posted on 11/19/2025 3:45:31 PM PST by MinorityRepublican

Germany should take over the historically American role of Nato Europe commander, Donald Trump’s envoy to the Western alliance has suggested.

Matthew Whitaker, the US ambassador to Nato, said he hoped Germany would one day volunteer for the prestigious role of Supreme Allied Commander Europe.

He told the Berlin Security Conference: “I look forward to the day when Germany comes to the United States and says that we’re ready to take over the Supreme Allied Commander position. I think we’re a long way away from that, but I look forward to those discussions.”

Since Nato was founded in 1949, the post of Supreme Allied Commander Europe has been held by an American, typically a four-star general, who oversees the alliance’s military activities in Europe.

The current occupant of the role is Gen Alexus G Grynkewich of the US Air Force. The first US officer to hold the post was Dwight D Eisenhower, the Second World War hero and 34th US president.

For months, rumours have swirled that the US is eager to step back from the role and allow a European general to take command.

Mr Whitaker’s remarks suggest the Trump administration would like to see Germany eventually overtake America as the main security guarantor in Europe.

It follows a pledge by Friedrich Merz, the German chancellor, to rebuild the Bundeswehr [armed forces] into the “strongest conventional army” in Europe. “Germany is back,” Mr Merz has claimed.

Mr Whitaker’s comments about the post of Supreme Allied Commander Europe going to Germany ruffled some feathers during a panel discussion on European defence.

Lt Gen Wolfgang Wien, Germany’s representative to Nato and the EU, told the panel he was slightly taken aback by the suggestion.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: European Union; Foreign Affairs; Germany
KEYWORDS: bundeswehr; europe; friedrichmerz; germanchancellor; germany; merz; nato; saceur; whatcouldgowrong
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1 posted on 11/19/2025 3:45:31 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Irony doesn’t begin to describe this.


2 posted on 11/19/2025 3:48:11 PM PST by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Sounds good, after all Gemans can’t even run Germany.


3 posted on 11/19/2025 3:48:51 PM PST by yuleeyahoo (“Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!” - the deep-state)
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To: MinorityRepublican

More Jiu Jitsu?


4 posted on 11/19/2025 3:51:18 PM PST by Texas Eagle ("Throw me to the wolves and I'll return leading the pack"- Donald J. Trump)
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To: MinorityRepublican

10 years ago, an American President probably would have asked Great Britain to take over NATO, if not them, France.
But now, both those countries appear intent on divesting themselves of all sovereign and autonomous duties. Those now managing those territories no longer even try stopping the invasion of the underclass. Germany is not much better, but there are signs of new resistance building.


5 posted on 11/19/2025 3:51:38 PM PST by lee martell
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To: MinorityRepublican

Lincoln: “I feel like the man who was tarred and feathered and ridden out of town on a rail. To the man who asked him how he liked it, he said: ‘If it wasn’t for the honor of the thing, I’d rather walk.’”


The United States has spent trillions for the “honor” of being the head of NATO troops. It is time for others to share that honor.


6 posted on 11/19/2025 3:52:24 PM PST by CIB-173RDABN
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To: All

Fine with me.


7 posted on 11/19/2025 3:53:10 PM PST by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Someone tell The Donald that the Germans actually want out of NATO. Seriously.


8 posted on 11/19/2025 3:54:17 PM PST by AAABEST (That time Washington DC became a corrupted, existential threat to us all...)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Deutschland Uber Alles!


9 posted on 11/19/2025 3:57:27 PM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS, REMEMBER REV; NIEMOLLER)
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To: MinorityRepublican

“Keep the Russians out, the Americans in, and the Germans down.” - NATO’s first Secretary General, Lord Ismay


10 posted on 11/19/2025 3:58:40 PM PST by Flag_This (They're lying.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Poland might be the best. On the front lines with Russia, a long history of knowing how they act and not suffering from rectal-cranial inversion like the UK, France and Germany.


11 posted on 11/19/2025 3:59:18 PM PST by KarlInOhio (I pray that the sleeping giant has finally awakened and been filled with a terrible resolve.)
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To: KarlInOhio

Poland might be the best


Not with Tusk in charge.


12 posted on 11/19/2025 4:00:30 PM PST by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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To: MinorityRepublican

> Germany should take over the historically American role of Nato Europe commander <

Bad idea. Instead let NATO be commanded by a UK general. And then by a French general. And then by a German general. Each general serves for one year. Then the position rotates.

And the US?
US out of NATO.


13 posted on 11/19/2025 4:01:40 PM PST by Leaning Right (It's morning in America. Again.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

A Muslim country heading NATO? No.


14 posted on 11/19/2025 4:01:42 PM PST by ArcadeQuarters (You can't remove RINOs by voting for them!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Once all the Germans were warlike and mean
But that couldn’t happen again
We taught them a lesson in 1918
And they’ve hardly bothered us since then


15 posted on 11/19/2025 4:01:43 PM PST by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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To: MinorityRepublican

With all due respect, I think this is ill advised to say the least. It is one thing to reduce USA’s financial outlay, but another thing altogether to cede control over the strategic role of NATO.

The US needs to run it like a joint operating agreement. We are the operator, and bill out to the non-operators for their share of costs every month. If they don’t pay, they get no protection.


16 posted on 11/19/2025 4:01:49 PM PST by con-surf-ative
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To: dfwgator

Credit to Tom Lehrer


17 posted on 11/19/2025 4:02:03 PM PST by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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To: ArcadeQuarters

Might as well let the Turks run it.


18 posted on 11/19/2025 4:05:34 PM PST by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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To: MinorityRepublican
What could go wrong?

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19 posted on 11/19/2025 4:06:02 PM PST by Jim Noble (Let it turn to something else, Matty)
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To: Jim Noble

Get along, get along, Kid Charlemagne!


20 posted on 11/19/2025 4:06:37 PM PST by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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