Posted on 11/02/2025 7:13:52 AM PST by McGruff
The Pentagon has given the White House the green light to provide Ukraine with long-range Tomahawk missiles after assessing that it would not negatively impact US stockpiles, leaving the final political decision in President Donald Trump’s hands, according to three US and European officials familiar with the matter.
The assessment buoyed the US’ European allies, who believe that the US now has fewer excuses not to provide the missiles, two European officials said. Trump also said just days before meeting Zelensky that the US has “a lot of Tomahawks” that it could potentially give to Ukraine.
US and European officials were surprised, therefore, when Trump dramatically changed his tune days later, saying during opening remarks at a White House working lunch with Zelensky that the US “needs” the Tomahawks. He then told Zelensky behind closed doors that the US would not be providing them — at least not yet.
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Yeah, let’s violate nuclear arms treaties by sending nuclear capable missiles to a non-NATO country run by a man who hasn’t legitimately been in office since 2024.
“...leaving the final political decision in President Donald Trump’s hands...”
So generous of them.
This story is not true, crap.
Don’t do it, Donald!
This is not what I voted for. Continuing and helping the globalists conduct Biden’s proxy war is just not okay. I do not care about EU or Ukraine or Russia. I just care about the struggling US.
Putin needs to leave all occupied territories, pay restitution to all, face war crimes.
Okay, will play along. Name the treaties that would be violated by the United States if it sent nuclear capable but conventionally armed missiles to Ukraine.
Yes lets send them Tomahawks when we produce about 60 a year and lay 30-50 down on every target we choose. And used about 165 on the shithole country of Yemen….
Let Zelensky take on Russia with a couple dozen tomahawks …like every other wunderwafen he swore would drive Putin to defeat
https://www.19fortyfive.com/2025/04/2000-missiles-gone-the-navys-tomahawk-cruise-missile-nightmare/
“.
As an assessment from a year ago concluded, the minimum sustainment rate to keep production lines running is 90 Tomahawks per year. But the Army and Marine Corps are barely sustaining that production with their buys of experimental land-launched versions of the missile.
Meanwhile, in 2023 the entire annual Tomahawk purchase of 55 missiles accounted for 68 percent of the precision munitions fired at the Houthis in just one day….”
Name the treaties that would be violated if Russia sends hypersonic Oreshniks to Venezuela…or Cuba
Didn’t Trump already say weeks ago - NO tomahawks for Ukraine?
So why is the Pentagon still preparing all the details of transfers?
Who is playing us? Is it Trump? Or is the deep state still in charge?
Don’t do it!
CNN
*spit
The Monroe doctrine? /s
No
Im genuinely curious if any nuclear treaties are still in force now. And I wonder what is the smallest nuclear capable delivery system today.
"...according to three US and European officials familiar with the matter."
These "familiar with the matter" types without names are working overtime, appearing in article after article.
Has Russia been using nuclear capable missiles?
Has Russia flown nuclear capable missiles through NATO nations in its war against Ukraine?
What is the best way to end this war? Is it forcing Vlad the Invader to the peace table?
Ask yourself another question. Can Russia win the war now? Russia is out of war stocks. Financially crippled, with inflation (sanctions haven’t even hit hard yet). The only resource left is to through a lot of soldiers in mass attacks and ‘terrorize’ civilians. What little advances they have made this year have been extremely costly.
The war can’t be won by Ukraine or Russia, IMHO, at this point with the resources both have. Trump is basically trying to force them to the peace table. In peace, Russia and Russians have their best odds at this point. It’s still a stupid war with stupid prizes. Vlad has consistently dodged Peace, he has been the obstacle. He lost the war when he didn’t take Ukraine quickly. Now, 3 years later after doubling down on doubling down, it’s just getting Russians killed.
Finally, do Tomahawks, in large numbers, give the opportunity for peace by collapsing Russian oil production infrastructure? I see the risk, everyone does. I think it’s inevitable that Ukraine will produce enough missiles to do this, how many will die before the inevitable peace terms come?
There is a sense that Trump has far bigger fish to fry.
1) The Chinese talk of 1 year delay in export controls did NOT INCLUDE magnets. That delay applies only to a handful of materials they expanded the controls to in response to a Trump tightening of tariffs in Sept/Oct.
2) Make no mistake here, there is nothing more important on the President’s plate. Odds look pretty good that when the text is hashed out, this week, for signing, we will hear that “the Chinese reneged on agreement”.
3) Tulsi in Bahrain just gave a speech confirming that the President has declared the era of nation building and regime change has ended — which was in his speech in the Middle East earlier this year.
4) Nothwithstanding 3) . . . he has just talked about intervention in Nigeria, to protect Christians. That is generally a Tomahawk event. Not troops. Increasing missile consumption.
If Trump allows the Tomahawks to be used in Ukraine, It will significantly damage both his presidency and Republican prospects going forward.
Yeah; it’s Linda Graham, the stooge for the Defense Contractors, ALWAYS promoting ALL weapons, I’m sure.
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