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Trump plans victory fund for Ukraine
The Telegraph, via Yahoo! News ^ | October 15, 2025 | Joe Barnes

Posted on 10/16/2025 7:56:35 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

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Very interesting strategy in making the ChiComs pay for Ukrainian weapons to use against the Russians.
1 posted on 10/16/2025 7:56:35 AM PDT by Timber Rattler
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To: Timber Rattler

Its British media nonsense.

Note that it depends on the EU agreeing to very high duties on Chinese products into the EU.


2 posted on 10/16/2025 8:12:16 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Timber Rattler

I had hoped Trump would not forget what the creators of this war had done to him in his last administration and second run for POTUS. Sadly, like Br’er Rabbit he’s all stuck in the Tar-Baby.

Now the tariff money once thought to be given to us ripped off Americans is going to NAZI Ukraine? WTF is going on?


3 posted on 10/16/2025 8:17:06 AM PDT by Dogbert41 (“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God” -Matthew 5:9)
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To: Timber Rattler

Never underestimate El Trumpo.


4 posted on 10/16/2025 8:18:29 AM PDT by rrrod (6)
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Likely nonsense.

Items:

1) Euroclear is the bank holding the frozen Russian assets. They have repeatedly made a point of their vulnerability to Russian lawsuits already in place, but would worsen if the assets (or interest on them) are tapped. The response: if they file their lawsuit at The Hague, you will be in no danger. Rebuttal: We have branches in Hong Kong and Singapore. The lawsuits will be there.

2) The lines have been drawn Asia vs NATO/EU. The EU is in no position to confront China’s money with their own (though both entities have central banks that can create money).

3) One does wonder if any money in the Ukraine Victory Fund would still flow to Ukraine with a pro Russian government there.


5 posted on 10/16/2025 8:20:06 AM PDT by Owen
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To: Dogbert41

Putin created the war. Period.


6 posted on 10/16/2025 8:24:22 AM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: Timber Rattler

Trump is throwing a bone to the media again...they don’t know what to do with this one. lol


7 posted on 10/16/2025 8:30:08 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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LOL The US and Europeans would simply refuse to pay any claims. You also seem to forget there's no "takings" clause in any European constitutions and the parliaments can do what they want. The major impediment to seizing Russian assets is the banks in the US and Europe holding them, who are loathe to give up all that money from which they are earning interest and collecting juicy fees. That's the only reason the money hasn't yet been seized.

The Singapore government would put the kibosh on any lawsuits to avoid causing problems with the West. Even the Chinese would likely do so also, as trade with Europe is worth far more than anything with Russia, and China already basically dictating the terms of that trade to Moscow already.

8 posted on 10/16/2025 8:32:48 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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Oh good, more funding for the blackhole to devour. Has anyone asked Trump what the end-game is or what victory looks like?

Instead of ending the nightmare on “day one” as promised, he’s capitulated to his new besties - swamp chickenhawks, neocon globalists and Larry Fink, who gets to spend all of America’s “recovery” funds.

Or why America is going bankrupt and making unnecessary enemies.


9 posted on 10/16/2025 8:34:30 AM PDT by AAABEST (That time Washington DC became a corrupted, existential threat to us all...)
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To: Dogbert41

The creators of this war, i.e., Vladimir Putin.


10 posted on 10/16/2025 8:38:53 AM PDT by Petrosius
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There was ONE “creator” of the war in Ukraine - Putin. Minus Putin no war in Ukraine.


11 posted on 10/16/2025 8:43:57 AM PDT by Wuli (uire)
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To: pierrem15

Hong Kong is more the issue than Singapore, but in both cases the matter would go to court. The branches are part of the total. Assets in Brussels must get shipped to HongKong if the lawsuit loses.

In fact, since it is all electronic, it would be instantaneous. And Euroclear values its business prospects in Asia.

It’s very much like what happened in Cyprus during the Greek crisis. Russian assets at Cypriot branches of British banks were at risk, but they were branches. When Cyprus announced on Friday afternoon that there would be a bail-in of the banks (funded by depositors) on Monday morning, Russian business people moved their assets from the Cypriot branches to the London branches, and then back to Moscow on Tuesday.

They had been the targets, but their money escaped.

It was this single event that started the ball rolling towards Bitcoin’s international aspect. Government confiscation is not possible in the blockchain.


12 posted on 10/16/2025 8:45:50 AM PDT by Owen
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“Asia” is Nato/EU???

You are putting Japan, South Korea, Philippines, Indonesia ect., ect. aligned with China??


13 posted on 10/16/2025 8:48:15 AM PDT by Wuli (uire)
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To: Wuli

Not sure if I mistyped or you did.

There would appear to be clear oppositional lines drawn of the significant populations of Asia (India and China) vs the populations of the NATO.

There is no point in thinking about money when all those countries have their own central banks and can create it.

But . . . we are in fact talking about Russian assets, which is money. They have their own central bank, too.

It’s mostly a matter of appearances so NATO oligarchs do not have to risk having their wealth declared absent-meaning by a war between central banks with their infinite money.


14 posted on 10/16/2025 8:55:19 AM PDT by Owen
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Government confiscation is not possible in the blockchain.

Of course governments can confiscate blockchain: they just have to get the owner and hold a pistol to his head. Or his kid's.

15 posted on 10/16/2025 9:00:26 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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Again, your definition of Asia - China and India - defies reality. Even financially. Japan, but are fraction the population of India, has a GDP as large as Inida. And tiny South Korea outperforms India financially per capita with exports of nearly 3/4 what India’s are. Using the weight of population to limit your definition of “Asia” to the exclusion of two of Asia’s important economies, makes no financial sense.


16 posted on 10/16/2025 9:12:50 AM PDT by Wuli (uire)
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"Note that it depends on the EU agreeing to very high duties on Chinese products into the EU."

Good point. They'll never do that.

17 posted on 10/16/2025 9:35:07 AM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: Wuli

Financial sense is defined by a substance central banks create from nothingness.

They are unable to create population, and thus that is the more compelling measure.


18 posted on 10/16/2025 9:40:03 AM PDT by Owen
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The creators of this war, i.e.
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….. the Ukie Neo Nazis who started bombing the Russian Donbass in 2014.When Lughansk and Donetsk voted for Independence FROM Ukraine, the shelling increased and the West backed them with $$$ billions to continue the war against Russia.

$$$billions still being flushed down the Ukie toilet, while the EU is self destructing with hostile aliens and debt.


19 posted on 10/16/2025 9:46:05 AM PDT by delta7
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To: everyone

Hold on to your wallet.


20 posted on 10/16/2025 9:49:56 AM PDT by McGruff
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