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Reactionary, Neo-Confederate Portland
American Greatness ^ | 6 Oct, 2025 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 10/06/2025 5:27:48 AM PDT by MtnClimber

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1 posted on 10/06/2025 5:27:48 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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Sooner or later these politicians will have to be put into prison.


2 posted on 10/06/2025 5:28:15 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: texas booster

VDH ping


3 posted on 10/06/2025 5:28:47 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

Who is paying for the distraction protests? Someone needs to find out where the money comes from to pay these protesters.


4 posted on 10/06/2025 5:32:26 AM PDT by FreedBird (p)
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To: MtnClimber

How will they pay any price? The local population hates ICE and completely supports the rioters like the article yesterday showed.


5 posted on 10/06/2025 5:33:33 AM PDT by nwrep
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6 posted on 10/06/2025 5:33:50 AM PDT by Twotone ( What's the difference between a politician & a flying pig? The letter "F.")
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To: MtnClimber

Abandon Portland and declare it an open city for illegals. Then cut off federal funding


7 posted on 10/06/2025 5:34:07 AM PDT by AppyPappy (They don't call you a Nazi because they think you are one. They do it to justify violence. )
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To: MtnClimber

Enclaves that cannot govern themselves must be governed by those who can.


8 posted on 10/06/2025 5:44:26 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("Break free from the temptations and shackles of this world." Erika Kirk, September 21, 2025)
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To: FreedBird

I am sure they know who is funding these neo-confederates. The time will come when they will be called to account for their actions.


9 posted on 10/06/2025 5:45:55 AM PDT by Destroyer Sailor (Revenge is a dish best served cold. )
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To: nwrep

How will they pay any price?


Obstructing a federal officer is a federal crime.

They can be locked up in a federal lock-up, tried before a federal judge, and sentenced to a federal prison.


10 posted on 10/06/2025 5:47:56 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: MtnClimber

Peerhaps the nation needs to place the “blue”̣(actually Marxist Red) statesinto a state of Reconstruction after the manner of the treatment of the Southern States post War Between the States. There is more reson for it now. After that war the southern states were beaten and rebellion was gone out of them but it is very much alive and active in California, Oregon, Illinois, New York, etc.


11 posted on 10/06/2025 5:48:16 AM PDT by arthurus (|l covfeve |l)
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Typical VDH wisdom: For a party that has been quick to shout “insurrection,” it is ironic that Democrats and their useful, though violent, Antifa insurrectionists are in rebellion against the federal government and its agents.

As is his use of "neo-Confederate" in describing Antifa.

IMHO, the only part that VDH missed is pointing out Trump is merely executing the immigration rules as established by Congress (as granted to Congress by the U.S. Constitution's Article 1, Section 8). In other words, Trump and ICE are just doing their jobs. Thus, today's Dim neo-Confederates are probably more in violation of Constitutional authority law than their predecessor Dim neo-Confederates with their nullifications of debatable laws leading up to the Civil War.

12 posted on 10/06/2025 5:52:54 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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Not really. The local DA will not charge them and the local judge will release them.


13 posted on 10/06/2025 5:55:23 AM PDT by nwrep
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The local DA will not charge them and the local judge will release them.


The local DA and the local judge have no say in federal offenses, unless they are federal attorneys (who President Trump has control over) and federal judges.


14 posted on 10/06/2025 5:58:53 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: MtnClimber
As a Californian, VDH thinks the term "Confederate" is a clever insult. In fact the real Confederates never behaved like that. They believed they had a right to independence from the United States and behaved like a nation state with a regular army and navy, rejecting guerrilla warfare and insurrectionary tactics.

There was an excellent panel on C-SPAN this past weekend featuring Gary Gallagher and several other Civil War historians discussing the reputation of Robert E. Lee. They pointed out that Lee and Jefferson Davis completely rejected the idea of guerrilla warfare.

15 posted on 10/06/2025 6:01:32 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus
As a Californian, VDH thinks the term "Confederate" is a clever insult. In fact the real Confederates never behaved like that. They believed they had a right to independence from the United States and behaved like a nation state with a regular army and navy, rejecting guerrilla warfare and insurrectionary tactics.

I didn't pick up on that. IMHO, the words VDH used were particular about the nullification aspect, not the methods of violence to resist the federal laws. In fact, one of VDH's example (a century after the civil war) was Dim Gov Wallace using the guard (troops in uniform) at the Univ of Alabama, not antifa/gruella style tactics.

16 posted on 10/06/2025 6:14:08 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: MtnClimber
Everyone wants to call our opponents bad names.

Fine; call them communists. They are.

For whatever reason, Hanson wants to call them “neo-Confederates.” I guess years of propaganda has gotten to him. Maybe he wants to score some cheap points with the uneducated.

During the Obama years Sheriff's in the south and out west announced they would not enforce federal laws that violate the 2nd amendment. We all cheered.

Tom Homan has it right about federal/state jurisdiction: “If they (locals) don't want to help (enforce federal law) fine; just stay out of the way and don't cross the line.

The communists in Oregon and elsewhere have crossed the line and there is reason for federal action.

Hanson should never use the words “neo-Confederate” without mention of the constitution's supremacy clause and the extreme limitations of federal supremacy.

https://www.9news.com/article/news/local/politics/larimer-sheriff-says-he-wont-enforce-gun-laws-he-considers-unconstitutional/73-309156219

17 posted on 10/06/2025 6:17:22 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: MtnClimber

“Sanctuary” jurisdictions have functionally seceded from the United States.

They do not consider the current Administration to be a legitimate government. To them, it justifies insurrection.

Once that advances to armed insurrection, we will have the equivalent of the Spanish Civil War, with attendant destabilization and destruction of the economy.

This is what they really want.


18 posted on 10/06/2025 6:27:24 AM PDT by Westbrook (democRATs are wizards at two things: Finding votes and losing evidence.)
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To: MtnClimber

“Whereas the laws of the United States have been, for some time past, and at the present and now, are opposed, and the execution thereof obstructed, in the states of South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Florida, Mississippi, Louisiana, and Texas, by combinations too powerful to be suppressed by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings, or by the powers vested in the Marshals by law, therefore, I, as Abraham Lincoln President of the United States, in virtue of the power in me vested by the Constitution and the laws, have thought fit to call out forth, and hereby do call out forth the militia of the several states, of the Union, to the aggregate number of seventyfive thousand, in order to suppress said combinations, and to cause the laws to be duly executed. The details, for this object, will be made known immediately communicated to the State authorities, through the War Department.”


19 posted on 10/06/2025 6:35:00 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Let it turn to something else, Mattyctory)
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To: Verginius Rufus
As a Californian, VDH thinks the term "Confederate" is a clever insulter insult

Exactly.
20 posted on 10/06/2025 6:40:07 AM PDT by ComputerGuy
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