Posted on 09/24/2025 8:12:30 AM PDT by artichokegrower
California has taken nuclear power plants offline while increasing mandates for wind and solar, resulting in statewide power shortages and power outages. Nuclear power is clean and reliable; wind and solar power, while “clean,” are unreliable, significantly more expensive, and emit the dreaded greenhouse gases (but don’t tell anyone that part).
There have been power outages since the 2006 California Global Warming Solutions Act, AB 32, was passed by the Legislature and signed into law. The California Public Utilities Commission has rejected previous attempts, but following the deadly 2018 fires, allowed power shutoffs under the guise of protecting public safety.
And now, one of the largest solar projects and bird killers is quietly shutting down. The $2.2 billion Ivanpah Solar Project in the Mohave Desert, which received $1.6 billion dollars in federal loan guarantees from the Obama administration, is shutting down. Larger than the Obama Solyndra solar scandal, the Ivanpah project is another California boondoggle that harmed the environment more than it provided much needed electricity to the state’s 40 million residents.
(Excerpt) Read more at californiaglobe.com ...
The green new deal
An examination on those that financially benefitted from the facility would be an eye opener. I’m betting they are Democrats and none have any financial difficulties from the failure of this.
A couple of billion here...
Just one more democrat gift and always was....this one just has more zeros behind it than most
>>The 2 BILLION dollar blight
Yes, but it only cost California, $600 million since Obama gave them $1.6 BILION in loan guarantees. So all the good folks in Georgia and Kentucky and Texas and so on, have the privilege of paying for this bovine scat.
Grift not gift
Put Obama’s Solyndra scandal to shame.
Stupid people with their very stupid ideas but the money is GREAT ,LOL
At this point it comes down to operating costs vs. maintenance costs.
There might be a surplus of daylight hour electricity in the state, but it could be used to recharge the future EVs the state government wants Californians to use.
At this point it comes down to wholesale electricity pricing vs. maintenance costs.
Obviously underfunded. They’ll get it right with a new one.
“reliable”
EVs can be charged up in times of plenty.
Thermostats could be made electricity price sensitive.
“The steam plant was designed for 28.72% gross efficiency”
About as efficient as solar panels, which probably require less maintenance.
If the heliostats were fitted with solar panels, the panels could be optimally pointed at the sun.
Green new scam.
Hear that, sun? You’re going to need to kick it up a few notches. Governor Nuisance is counting on you.
That is exactly how my wife and I usually charge our EV with our decentralized solar. When we bring home the EV with more than enough range for the next day, we plug in a charger that's intermittently powered. Whenever my inverters determine that the home battery stack is charged enough to power the home through the night (configurable), the inverters power a separate electrical panel that one of the EV chargers is tied to. With my wife retired and me quasi-retired (usually working from home anyway), often the EV is home during the day (and can be charged by free solar power).
So when the EV is charged on a sunny day to 80% and gives us a range of 230 miles, that's usually more than enough for a few days. Thus the few times we charge the EV with the constantly powered charger (always on, but not always free power), it's because we either have had a few rainy days in a row or we had to drive a lot on one day. If we underestimate how much we have to drive the next day, we always have the gas pickup as a backup. (That's never happened, but it's always there if we need it. Thus we have the flexibility to let the EV range get a bit low hoping for a day of free solar power before we give up and pull power from the grid.)
“The green new deal”
You are so right in that as soon as it becomes a draw on the pocketbook and the owners can’t foot the bill, it will be closed. And the owners of the project are well known groups to include:
NRG Energy: A Houston-based company that operates the plant and holds a co-ownership stake, acting as a primary operator.
Google (Alphabet Inc.): A major partner and co-owner of the plant.
BrightSource Energy: A co-owner that also developed the facility.
All liberal organizations.
wy69
May I pull up the copper?
When will security leave?
HA haaaaaas! How do you "guarantees" a loan? Oh. Right. Pass it on to the taxpayers.
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