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US in real danger of losing the moon race to China, experts tell Senate
Space dot com ^ | September 4, 2025 | Josh Dinner

Posted on 09/04/2025 1:20:23 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

Committee Chairman Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) opened the Sept. 3 hearing, titled "There's a Bad Moon on the Rise," by warning that the United States risks losing the moon to China if NASA's Artemis program falters. The hearing centered on how America can stay ahead in the new space race, with lawmakers pressing the importance of Artemis and reaffirming the need for the Gateway space station and to maintain continuous operations in low Earth orbit (LEO).

Witnesses underscored that delays, budget uncertainty, or wavering commitments could undermine both U.S. industry and international alliances, warning that uncertainty could drive partners and suppliers toward China's accelerating lunar mission technologies.

Experts invited to testify included former NASA Administrator Jim Bridenstine; Allen Cutler, president and CEO of the Coalition for Deep Space Exploration; Mike Gold, president of civil and international space at Redwire; and former Deputy Commander of the U.S. Space Command Lt. Gen. John Shaw.

These witnesses pointed to China's recent progress, including a crew vehicle abort-system test in June, a Long March 10 rocket static fire in August, and a moon lander demonstration, as evidence of a systematic push toward the lunar surface.

(Excerpt) Read more at space.com ...


TOPICS: China; European Union; US: Texas; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: alabama; allencutler; artemis; ccp; china; elonmusk; huntsville; jimbridenstine; johnshaw; joshdinner; letspacexdoit; longmarch10; maga; mikegold; moon; nasa; oklahoma; randpaulsucks; redstonearsenal; screwthegateway; seanduffy; spacecommand; spacex; starship; tedcruz; texas; themoon
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Former NASA administrator Jim Bridenstine talks about the difficulties in beating China to the moon at a Senate hearing on September 3, 2025. 
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1 posted on 09/04/2025 1:20:23 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv

Um....I think the race ended in 1969.


2 posted on 09/04/2025 1:21:08 PM PDT by xp38
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We already went to the moon.


3 posted on 09/04/2025 1:23:55 PM PDT by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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To: xp38

Yup. Been there, done that.


4 posted on 09/04/2025 1:24:03 PM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: xp38
Um....I think the race ended in 1969.

Memory hole.

5 posted on 09/04/2025 1:24:09 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: xp38

It’s a new race to see who can be the first establish massage parlor on the moon.


6 posted on 09/04/2025 1:24:42 PM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative)
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To: SunkenCiv

I agree with Cruz. Let’s light this candle!


7 posted on 09/04/2025 1:25:23 PM PDT by NeverTyranny
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To: SunkenCiv

Didn’t we already win the moon race like 55 years ago?


8 posted on 09/04/2025 1:25:30 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (I'd rather have one king 3000 miles away that 3000 kings one mile away)
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China's man-rated big 'un is the Long March 10. It can put 70,000 kg (150,000 lb) into Low Earth orbit, or 25,000 (55115 lb) into Trans-Lunar Injection (TLI).
The Long March 9 plans come and go. In current form its TLI capacity is 54,000 kg (119,000 lb).
By contrast, the unsuccessful Soviet N1 booster by spec was circa 33,000 kg (73,000 lb), but of course, it never had a successful flight test, or actually any during the lifetime of head of the bureau Sergei Korolev.
Also by contrast, the US' Saturn V payload to TLI mass was 43,500 kg (95,900 lb).

9 posted on 09/04/2025 1:25:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (NeverTrumpin' -- it's not just for DNC shills anymore -- oh, wait, yeah it is.)
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To: SunkenCiv

We need to have a reliable heavy lift system that can help setup a moon base as staging for Mars.
I don’t think China is a threat to SpaceX plans.
NASA yes...SpaceX No.


10 posted on 09/04/2025 1:28:37 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: NeverTyranny
The hearing wasn't about anything but the stupid Lunar Gateway boondoggle, i.e., space station redux.

11 posted on 09/04/2025 1:29:24 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (NeverTrumpin' -- it's not just for DNC shills anymore -- oh, wait, yeah it is.)
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To: Zathras

/bingo


12 posted on 09/04/2025 1:30:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (NeverTrumpin' -- it's not just for DNC shills anymore -- oh, wait, yeah it is.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Been there, done that, got the moon rocks.


13 posted on 09/04/2025 1:30:12 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SunkenCiv

China rockets go Kablooey! Big bang bang bing bong. Thanks for covid, a$$ho&@! Me no likey the chinamen


14 posted on 09/04/2025 1:30:36 PM PDT by MarlonRando
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To: SunkenCiv

So what? Let the Chi-coms build some useless facility on that barren rock. Nothing has been found there of use.


15 posted on 09/04/2025 1:36:04 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (USA Birth Certificate - 1789. Death Certificate - 2021? )
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To: SunkenCiv

Patch the rift with Musk and we will be there by next Thursday, along with the first Tesla moon rover.


16 posted on 09/04/2025 1:39:59 PM PDT by Colorado Doug
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To: MarlonRando

😂


17 posted on 09/04/2025 1:40:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (NeverTrumpin' -- it's not just for DNC shills anymore -- oh, wait, yeah it is.)
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It is Chinese moon you no land here.


18 posted on 09/04/2025 1:41:42 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell (If you keep your head while all around you are losing theirs, nobody will care, they have no brains.)
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To: Colorado Doug
Rift or no rift, SpaceX is going to the Moon with or without NASA, and I'd be surprised if it doesn't arrive there by or before 2027.
I'll be stunned if the new US (no more of this Int'l BS) space station in Earth orbit isn't designed, built, funded, and launched by SpaceX in time to replace the ISS when it gets dumped into the Pacific.

19 posted on 09/04/2025 1:43:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (NeverTrumpin' -- it's not just for DNC shills anymore -- oh, wait, yeah it is.)
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As usual, plenty of blockheads posting here putting their ignorance and stupidity on display. You idiots, why the hell do you think China, Russia, and India are pushing hard to get to the moon? Maybe there are economic and military advantages in colonizing the moon? Look beyond your nose!!

Had some of you been around in 1492, you would have mocked Columbus for thinking the world was round.
20 posted on 09/04/2025 1:50:16 PM PDT by Dan in Wichita
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