Posted on 08/19/2025 5:48:46 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
In the wake of this week's historic White House meetings, President Volodymyr Zelensky says Ukraine and its allies are "already working on the concrete content of the security guarantees".
Sir Keir Starmer has been chairing a virtual meeting of those nations prepared to help secure Ukraine after a peace deal - the so-called "Coalition of the Willing".
And Britain has dispatched its Chief of Defence Staff, Admiral Sir Tony Radakin, to Washington to work out how the US can help. The cogs are clearly turning.
But what do "security guarantees" actually mean in practice?
There is a wide spectrum here, ranging from the much overused "boots on the ground" to the threat of crippling economic sanctions on Russia's oil exports.
Let's start with what Ukraine wants, and isn't going to get, at least not for the foreseeable future, and that's membership of Nato.
US President Donald Trump has ruled that out but there are plenty of other Nato members who also quietly oppose it, such as Slovakia, mainly on the grounds it would dramatically raise the chances of the transatlantic alliance getting dragged into a shooting war with Russia.
Clearly Ukraine will need strong security guarantees after a peace agreement is reached, to prevent Russia from coming back and taking a second, or third, bite.
This is why Sir Keir and President Emmanuel Macron of France have been putting together the 30-plus nation Coalition of the Willing with the aim of providing Ukraine with some international reassurance after a peace deal is signed.
Policing Ukraine's airspace is one likely option. This could be done by basing planes at existing airbases in neighbouring Poland or Romania, with US participation.
(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...
“security guarantees” means the USA, and its soldiers, being the meathead muscle to carry out what are really rump British-empire and EU-globalist foreign policy goals against Russia.
Zelensky Security Guarantees MeaningWhen President Volodymyr Zelensky refers to "security guarantees" as a necessary condition for a peace agreement, he means concrete, binding commitments from Western nations—particularly the United States—to ensure Ukraine's long-term defense and deter future Russian aggression.
He has emphasized that these guarantees must go beyond symbolic support and include tangible measures such as military assistance, arms purchases, and potentially the deployment of foreign troops, as paper promises have repeatedly proven ineffective. He has made clear that peace is only viable when Ukraine’s army is strong and its partners are firmly committed, asserting that "without America, security guarantees cannot be complete".
Trump's comment on security guarantees:
Trump also on Feb. 26 said that Europe, rather than the U.S., would be mainly responsible for providing security guarantees to Ukraine.
"I'm not going to make security guarantees beyond very much — we're going to have Europe do that because we're talking about Europe is their next door neighbor," he said during a cabinet meeting at the White House.
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ransomnote: Since Europe is in no condition to defend Ukraine's security, NATO/Zelensky expect the United STates to perform that task long term. Trump has said 'no'. We'll see how this turns out.
“But what do “security guarantees” actually mean in practice?”
The Budapest Memorandum is a great example.
Amazingly, nobody has mentioned a treaty...other than NATO membership which has been nixed by several.
So, Budapest Memorandum it is.
Not worth the paper it’s written on. And Ukraine WILL fall for the same BS again.
Who wants France and England for back-up against Russia?
Two whimpy Muslim or homo countries.
I have an idea. Send everyone from Gaza to Ukraine.
There are 300 million people in the U.S. 500 million in Europe so why don’t we let the Europeans solve Europe’s problems. We should the U.S. squander our wealth and lives for them?
And American foreign policy goals against Russia: the US has no interest in a pan-Eurasian Empire stretching from the Atlantic to Shanghai, or more specifically in Russia imposing another Eastern European “sphere of influence.”
“desperate residents clinging to the rear staircase and landing gear of a World Airways plane and falling to their deaths as it took flight.”
Sound familar?
“’It’s time to pull the plug. Vietnam is gone.’”
President Gerald Ford
https://www.history.com/articles/fall-of-saigon-timeline-vietnam-war
Number of timely B-52 deterrent strikes: 0
Zelensky should simply ask for money to keep his battle-tested troops on duty and provide them with weapons.
Hard pass.
“Who wants France and England for back-up against Russia?”
No sane Ukrainian!
WIKI
The U.S. foreign correspondent William Shirer was assigned to Berlin at the onset of World War II. In his diary entries on 9 and 10 September 1939, he wrote about the puzzlement felt by many:
“Apparently the war in Poland is all but over....Britain and France have done nothing on the western front to relieve the tremendous pressure on Poland.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoney_War
That’s the difference between now and 1939. We have troops stationed on Russia’s Western Frontier. Britain and France had no troops on Germany’s Eastern Frontier.
“Britain and France had no troops on Germany’s Eastern Frontier”, but far more than Germany had on its Western Frontier.
Yeah, but that didn’t do Poland any good.
Now at least Russia doesn’t have to worry about a two-front war, like Germany did, unless China invades Russia.
“How the USSR under Zhukov smashed the Japanese in Mongolia”
https://www.rbth.com/history/330922-soviet-japanese-war-khalkyn-gol
That may very well have been the most important battle of WWII, and few know about it.
This about sums it all up.
Europe To Spend $100BN It Doesn’t Have, To Buy Weapons America Doesn’t Have, To Arm Soldiers Ukraine Doesn’t Have.
Zelensky should simply ask for money to keep his battle-tested troops on duty and provide them with weapons.
Far too many battle-tested Ukrainian troops have been planted in the ground for that. They can no longer adequately man the front lines.
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