Trump says no ground troops, but maybe air support, to back Ukraine peace deal

Reuters ^ | August 19, 20253:27 PM CDT | Andrea Shalal, Tom Balmforth and Anastasiia Malenko

[BoringGuy]

Seems like USAF support for air cover could be based in Germany (less than 1k miles from Kyiv). Boots could touch ground there.

[rxh4n1]

You sure are hot to send other peoples kids off to war. You should send your own first before you send mine.

[adorno]

You sure are hot to send other peoples kids off to war. You should send your own first before you send mine.

That' so dopey!

That 'kids' that are going to war are already there, and they're there because your man Putin decided that Ukraine was so pretty and delicious looking, and easy-pickings . The 'kids' doing the fighting are Ukrainians and your friends, the Russian.

Pay attention!

[rxh4n1]

The usual tedious smear job. Call anyone who supports peace negotiations a Putin supporter. It’s a Democrat tactic meant to bully and silence debate.

[Degaston]

..... Let those engagements be observed in their genuine sense. But, in my opinion, it is unnecessary and would be unwise to extend them.

Taking care always to keep ourselves by suitable establishments on a respectable defensive posture, we may safely trust to temporary alliances for extraordinary emergencies.

Harmony, liberal intercourse with all nations, are recommended by policy, humanity, and interest. But even our commercial policy should hold an equal and impartial hand; neither seeking nor granting exclusive favors or preferences; consulting the natural course of things; diffusing and diversifying by gentle means the streams of commerce, but forcing nothing; establishing (with powers so disposed, in order to give trade a stable course, to define the rights of our merchants, and to enable the government to support them) conventional rules of intercourse, the best that present circumstances and mutual opinion will permit, but temporary, and liable to be from time to time abandoned or varied, as experience and circumstances shall dictate; constantly keeping in view that it is folly in one nation to look for disinterested favors from another; that it must pay with a portion of its independence for whatever it may accept under that character; that, by such acceptance, it may place itself in the condition of having given equivalents for nominal favors, and yet of being reproached with ingratitude for not giving more. There can be no greater error than to expect or calculate upon real favors from nation to nation. It is an illusion, which experience must cure, which a just pride ought to discard......

Washington Farewell Address, 1796

[adorno]

The usual tedious smear job.

It's not a smear job if it's the truth. Learn the difference and stop being so ignorant.

Call anyone who supports peace negotiations a Putin supporter.

Putin does not support peace negotiations, and he proves it on a daily basis. Anyone that believes Putin wants peace is delusional and ends up supporting Putin by denying that basic fact or truth.

It’s a Democrat tactic meant to bully and silence debate.

Support of a bully and an aggressor and a warmonger, does not deserve the basic freedoms and protections of democracies. Do you think a criminal deserves the protections of a democracy? Criminal are put in prisons and have their rights taken away. Putin should be in prison or should have met his maker (Satan) a long time ago. In the U.S., if you support a criminal, you could be brought up on charges of aiding and abetting a criminal. Aiding and abetting a war criminal is no different.

[JonPreston]

1.7M Ukrainian casualties and 625K this year alone.

[rxh4n1]

“It’s not a smear job if it’s the truth. Learn the difference and stop being so ignorant.”

It’s a smear job when you falsely call people who support peace negotiations Piutin supporters. Your crowd has been doing that since the war started. It’s a nasty Democrat tactic.

[adorno]

It’s a smear job when you falsely call people who support peace negotiations Piutin supporters.

The truth is still not a smear job.

Putin does not support peace, unless he gets peace his way, and that is by getting Ukraine as part of the deal. That is NOT PEACE because it would keep Ukraine still trying to fight off the Russians and Putin still attacking until he does away with the Ukrainians resistance.
br> And wanting peace the Putin way is not peace, and if you support that kind of 'peace',, you are lying about wanting peace.

Until Putin is booted out of Ukraine and until he decides that Ukraine is out of the question, Ukraine will be at war and so will the NATO countries which want Putin out of Ukraine and also stops acting aggressively.

Peace with a terrorist and aggressor is not possible.

Your crowd has been doing that since the war started. It’s a nasty Democrat tactic.

My crows? That's so dumb.

The Ukrainians were at peace. Then Putin sent in his military in an invasion. Peace was broken. The Ukrainians did not break that peace; Putin did. If Putin really wanted peace, he would not have invaded in the first place. Putin has not accomplished what he set out ot do, and so, he doesn't want peace until he does get the job done.

Anybody that doesn't understand that, is either stupid or a warmonger or on Putin's side. You appear to be on Putin's side,and since Putin is not seeking peace, you can't say you want peace. It's not logical and its not even common sense.

[rxh4n1]

“Ukraine will be at war and so will the NATO countries which want Putin out of Ukraine and also stops acting aggressively.”

NATO fags aren’t gonna go to war. They’ll talk big but demand that the USA do it for them.

“Anybody that doesn’t understand that, is either stupid or a warmonger or on Putin’s side. You appear to be on Putin’s side,and since Putin is not seeking peace, you can’t say you want peace. It’s not logical and its not even common sense”

Can’t you come up with anything original? Same tired old lies and insults.

[adorno]

NATO fags aren’t gonna go to war.

NATO fags? You think you can with the argument by insulting them? And, how do you know they're fags? And, aren't there women in NATO? What do you call those women?

They’ll talk big but demand that the USA do it for them.

The U.S. is contributing to the Ukrainians, but the Eurpeans are already in there, perhaps not with troops on the ground, but with equipment, armaments and drones and missiles, and even war planes, And they've had to increase their military budgets to handle any threats.

And, whether you want to believe it or not, NATO countries by themselves. In fact, Russia is no match for their collective defense structure.

“Anybody that doesn’t understand that, is either stupid or a warmonger or on Putin’s side. You appear to be on Putin’s side,and since Putin is not seeking peace, you can’t say you want peace. It’s not logical and its not even common sense”

Worth repeating. Thanks for quoting.

Can’t you come up with anything original?

The truth doesn't have to change? It stands up to scrutiny and those threatened by the truth are the only ones wanting to change it. Can't handle the truth? become a believer in tn that truth.

Same tired old lies and insults.

They're not insults if they're the truth. And hey can't be lies when the facts bear them out. <

So, how truthful do you think Putin is? And do you approve of his invasion of Ukraine? And do you he should be allowed to conquer Ukraine and make it part of the Russian Federation?

[adorno]

It’s a smear job when you falsely call people who support peace negotiations Piutin supporters. Your crowd has been doing that since the war started. It’s a nasty Democrat tactic.

It's not false and it's not a smear job when everything I said is exactly true.

Putin does not want peace. He's proved that every day he continues bombing and killing people and destroying Ukraine. Zelensky has indicated he's willing to stop the fighting and Trump has also take Zelensky at his word, but every time Trum and zelensky call for a ceasefire, Putin goes and increased the number of attacks in Ukraine. It seems that, to Putin, peace means bombing and killing all things to 'pieces'.

A terrorist cannot be dealt with, and those supporting a terrorist are the same as the terrorist. Your side has been supporting Putin the terrorist since the beginning.

IN history, there was a 'Vlad the Impaler'. Now we have 'Vlad the Invader'.

[Biblebelter]

Heard of the slow walk?

Trump just slow walking away.

Or to use the words of Paul Simon, Uncle Sam just slip slidin’ away.

[MinorityRepublican]

Putin does not support peace, unless he gets peace his way, and that is by getting Ukraine as part of the deal.

Trump will eventually come to this realization.

Trump will have no choice but to sell more weapons to Ukraine and proceed with secondary sanctions.

Putin is not feeling the pressure so why would he negotiate at this time?

[MinorityRepublican]

Trump just slow walking away.

Even if Trump wants to walk away, that is not an option.

It would mean the Russian conquest of Ukraine.

[adorno]

1.7M Ukrainian casualties and 625K this year alone.

Hacked and fabricated numbers are your preferred war stories.

Meanwhile, Russia has suffered 10 million deaths in the war, and 20 million injured, and 30 million able-bodied men fleeing the country to avoid being sent to their certain deaths in Ukraine.

The widowed women in Russia, and the millions of orphaned children in Russia want to leave the country for better lives elsewhere, but Putin is preventing them from leaving, preferring that they all starve to death in the non-existent Russian economy. It's the iron-curtain all over again. .

[adorno]

Trump will eventually come to this realization.

Trump knows the truth, but he's got to to keep trying, especially when he knows that the war has been very destructive to Russia too and they can't keep the war going tor too much longer.

Trump will have no choice but to sell more weapons to Ukraine and proceed with secondary sanctions.

Perhaps not directly to Ukraine, but via the NATO countries, which those countries have been doing anyway.

Putin is not feeling the pressure so why would he negotiate at this time?

Oh, Putin is indeed feeling the pressure, but he can't admit it and has to save face. Going into peace negotiations would would mean that he and Russia have failed in their mission, and having to putt out would be very devastating to his ego. It's his ego that matters to him and the country and people matter very little to him, and he would sacrifice his entire military and his the entire Russian economy to get his way.

Losing to a smaller military and a smaller country, would the ultimate embarrassment to the huge ego of that tiny man.

The only way forward is to make Putin and Russia pay dearly and heavily, since peace is not a word in Putin's vocabulary. Imagine how Hitler felt when he realized that the jig was up. Putin is the current Hitler.

[rxh4n1]

“A terrorist cannot be dealt with, and those supporting a terrorist are the same as the terrorist. Your side has been supporting Putin the terrorist since the beginning.”

No, it is a smear job when you falsely accuse supporters of peace negotiations Putin supporters. It’s a filthy Democrat tactic to shut down your opponent. It’s the same as Democrats smearing us as white supremacists and all the other lies. Shame on you for doing this.

[adorno]

No, it is a smear job when you falsely accuse supporters of peace negotiations Putin supporters.

The only party in the war that doesn't want peace negotiations, is Putin. Yet YOUR side accuses Zelensky of not wanting peace or negotiations to end the war. That makes YOU the same as Putin. If you are the equal of Puiin, you support terrorism and don't want peace. Common sense, which you lack, apparently.

It’s a filthy Democrat tactic to shut down your opponent.

Democrats, through Biden, allowed Putin to invade Ukraine. If anybody continues to support Putin while Putin refuses to negotiate for peace, it logically makes YOU a Bidenista and a PUtinista. IOW, YOU are the democrat in this discussion.

It’s the same as Democrats smearing us as white supremacists and all the other lies.

I, a conservative republican, is accusing YOU of being a Putin supporter. who doesn't want peace in Ukraine until he has finished the job of taking Ukraine. No republican wants Ukraine to become part of the Russian Federation. Your support for Putin means that, YOU can't call yourself a republican. You may be here pretending to be republicans, but your words betray you, which makes YOU the democrats in this discussion.

Democrats have been very good at projection forever, but YOU can't fool me. You're a democrat, thru and thru. Own it; you are a democrat.

You are the same as Putin. Putin uses the word 'peace' while doing the exact opposite. You talk up the peace initiatives, while supporting Putin. Is that logical?

Shame on you for doing this.