Posted on 08/16/2025 2:10:33 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
As the people of Ukraine know, neighborliness is not among Putin’s great qualities.
Still, it was with a reference to the US and Russia being neighbors that Putin kicked off his conversation with President Trump in Alaska yesterday.
On the red carpet at the airport he apparently said to Trump: “Good afternoon, dear neighbor. Very good to see you in good health and to see you alive.”
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Trump’s own remarks at the joint press conference were friendly and formal.
But he acknowledged that while the talks were a start there was no deal.
Because there were still a number of small things and “one which is the most significant” that the two sides had not agreed on.
Presumably that one big thing was whether or not Putin should be allowed to keep the territory of Ukraine that his forces have already annexed.
This is a point of contention not only for the Ukrainian people, but for America´s NATO allies, who are united in the belief that giving Putin something of Ukraine will not satisfy his appetite for land, but only encourage it.
There are those at home in the US who say that this is fever-dream of war-mongers. But America’s allies in Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Poland, Finland, Sweden and nearly all of the rest of Europe fear it.
And for them this is not some theoretical, grand-strategy game.
It is a matter of whether their countries will be at existential risk of invasion by Putin next.
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I wonder what people were thinking was going to happen, Putin wasn’t going to attend the meeting and immediately cease all military operations in Ukraine, pack up and go home.
If and it’s a big IF the war ends in Ukraine, it’s going to take a series of talks and ultimately involve Ukraine, while hoping neocons in Europe and the US don’t sabotage any potential deal to end the war.
I wish Putin would come out and admit it was a giant mistake and just go home.
That’s the optimal outcome, but sadly he’s too stupid to do that.
You know there is ZERO chance of that happening, has George Bush 43 come out and said invading Iraq because of WMD was stupid ?? The point being politicians regardless of their country or political beliefs rarely if ever admit they did something stupid and it’s not because they are stupid.
The reality is Putin invaded Ukraine, he’s taken some amount of territory and he’s not leaving, can a peace deal be worked out given the current state of affairs, I have my doubts, but we’ll see.
Maybe if Ukraine didn’t try to clean Ukraine of Ethnic Russians Putin would have never had to come to their rescue.
otoh, face facts.. the entire area has been at war for hundreds of years.
And Zelinsky has said they will never stop until Nato,
specifically the U.S., has boots on the ground In the Ukraine.
“I wish Putin would come out and admit it was a giant mistake and just go home.”
The Russians are not going to just leave. Now what? What’s your idea on how to resolve this?
All of that may be true, but the point I was trying to make is that a single meeting between Trump and Putin was never going to produce a peace deal, the media saying the meeting was a failure because no deal was made is par for the course for the MSM...
If they truly feared Putin invading Europe, they would have spent more on their own defense instead of using that money to take months of vacation each year and retire at 50.
You people are a joke at this point. Full of delusion, wishful thinking and spitting hate for Vlad.
Watching the sht-brained neocons heads explode on Faux News yesterday just made my day. They get nasty when things don't go their way - and they aren't. Trump was supposed to put their boogieman in his place.
A "ceasefire" (lol) would be asinine, and the Russians, obviously, aren't leaving their new border. It came at great cost and they don't need to. Not only are they defending it, they have the initiative on offense, despite NATO and the internatiinalists throwing everything at them.
Ill bet he has some major mental issues.
Let's see if any youtube analyzers had looked at his head case.
Martin decoder, calling dr. Decoder..
But such ethnic cleaning never happened. What is your next excuse?
“”””Putin invaded Ukraine when nato made plans to add nukes to the area.. “”””
What countries were going to add nuclear missiles to what area?
“Trump was supposed to put their boogieman in his place.”
And it’s weird that Fox thought Trump would/could do that. Even HE didn’t sound too confident that that would happen, but he knew he was giving it his best shot — for us.
Putin isn’t the type of person to go down so easily; he isn’t wired that way — much like Trump. Both are stubborn and have fixed ideologies for their countries.
We channel surfed over to Fox a couple times yesterday. Then we remembered why we haven’t watched them in five years.
THE U.S. read some news!
“ Maybe if Ukraine didn’t try to clean Ukraine of Ethnic Russians Putin would have never had to come to their rescue.”
Well said. People love to ignore this fact. You don’t have to be a fan of Russia and Putin to understand it. People also seem to ignore all the other things that Russia (and this country) has done over the last several decades… what makes Ukraine so different that we want to go into another war over. The “If we don’t stop them now they will take over all Europe” argument is without merit; three years into this and they can’t even finish Ukraine. These are the same people that constantly make fun of how stupid and ill trained, how ill equipped the Russians are, yet somehow they are going to take over the world, lol.
Share some of what you read, the United States was going to station nuclear weapons in Ukraine so Putin had to try to conquer Ukraine?
Douglass is full of horsecrap. He is an arrogant deep state elitist from UK and he does not want peace or an end.
Trump and Putin did fine and Trump has never said Putin is up to tricks.
We know this because Trump has had no problem being honest with Putin or publicly calling him out.
Go away Murray.
and, I assume that Russian reparations for the destruction of Ukraine was not on this meeting’s agenda
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