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Australian Lawyer Sorry for AI Errors in Murder Case, Including Fake Quotes and Made up Cases
NBC News ^ | Aug. 15, 2025

Posted on 08/15/2025 10:15:12 AM PDT by nickcarraway

The fake submissions included fabricated quotes from a speech to the state legislature and nonexistent case citations purportedly from the Supreme Court.

A senior lawyer in Australia has apologized to a judge for filing submissions in a murder case that included fake quotes and nonexistent case judgments generated by artificial intelligence. The blunder in the Supreme Court of Victoria state is another in a litany of mishaps AI has caused in justice systems around the world. Defense lawyer Rishi Nathwani, who holds the prestigious legal title of King’s Counsel, took “full responsibility” for filing incorrect information in submissions in the case of a teenager charged with murder, according to court documents seen by The Associated Press on Friday.

“We are deeply sorry and embarrassed for what occurred,” Nathwani told Justice James Elliott on Wednesday, on behalf of the defense team. The AI-generated errors caused a 24-hour delay in resolving a case that Elliott had hoped to conclude on Wednesday. Elliott ruled on Thursday that Nathwani’s client, who cannot be identified because he is a minor, was not guilty of murder because of mental impairment.

“At the risk of understatement, the manner in which these events have unfolded is unsatisfactory,” Elliott told lawyers on Thursday. “The ability of the court to rely upon the accuracy of submissions made by counsel is fundamental to the due administration of justice,” Elliott added.

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TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ai; aiworship; australia; chatgpt
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This has happened before. Why don't these lawyers get a paralegal to check?
1 posted on 08/15/2025 10:15:12 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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AI, I for one am glad I will be gone before it wrecks our world completely. It has a good start.


2 posted on 08/15/2025 10:17:37 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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He must be related to Adam Shiff.


3 posted on 08/15/2025 10:19:23 AM PDT by Track9 (Make haste slowly. )
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If this person isn’t barred for life from practicing law then it’s all window dressing.


4 posted on 08/15/2025 10:19:49 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Resolute Conservative

You don’t know that, it may kidnap your brain and keep it alive in a jar.


5 posted on 08/15/2025 10:21:08 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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I’m enjoying people feeding fake legal cases to AI engines.

Apparently, it’s achieving its desired effect…


6 posted on 08/15/2025 10:21:39 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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I have plenty of Reynolds Wrap in my hats to hide me.


7 posted on 08/15/2025 10:23:58 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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“AI, I for one am glad I will be gone before it wrecks our world completely. It has a good start.”

AI is deeply embedded in our systems. It will never be gone.


8 posted on 08/15/2025 10:34:46 AM PDT by TexasGator (The 750 hp Florida Gnat)
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Why don't these lawyers get a paralegal to check?

Yes, it used to be in the old days that you'd always have a paralegal or junior associate "Shepardize" a case to make sure it was good law, the citations were all correct, etc.. And you'd have someone do the same thing for all the citations to the factual record.

But apparently, that is one of the places corners are getting cut.

9 posted on 08/15/2025 10:37:24 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin ( )
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Actually, that’s better than most legal associates do.


10 posted on 08/15/2025 10:39:44 AM PDT by circlecity
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Judges and lawyers using AI are useless and should FIRED/REMOVED


11 posted on 08/15/2025 10:41:51 AM PDT by butlerweave
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“ Yes, it used to be in the old days that you'd always have a paralegal or junior associate "Shepardize" a case to make sure it was good law, the citations were all correct, etc”

Yeah, 40 years ago. Now you do a Westlaw cite check or the online equivalent. You can upload your whole brief and do every case at once. This person didn’t even do that.

12 posted on 08/15/2025 10:43:11 AM PDT by circlecity
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AI is just a compilation of everything it finds on the Internet about a topic. This is why the left lies about everything. It will be picked up by AI just the same as the truth. It’s like Wikipedia on steroids, good for researching something factual like winners of previous Olympics but worse than worthless for anything the least bit political.


13 posted on 08/15/2025 10:44:02 AM PDT by Freee-dame
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Thank you for referencing that article nickcarraway.

"Australian Lawyer Sorry for AI Errors in Murder Case, Including Fake Quotes and Made up Cases"


To err is human. To really foul things up requires AI.

14 posted on 08/15/2025 10:45:19 AM PDT by Amendment10
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Because they are lazy.

And cheap.

Also they are, like anyone who believes that AI actually exists, bone deep stupid.

There is no such thing as AI, there probably never will be any such thing as AI. What is out now it a Large Language Model that was programmed using (stolen) fiction.

Every time I have seen the results of someone using it there have been major errors of fact. Oh it is put together nicely. Good grammar, no misspellings, and factually wrong.

15 posted on 08/15/2025 10:46:07 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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And that is scary.


16 posted on 08/15/2025 10:47:45 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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“AI is just a compilation of everything it finds on the Internet about a topic.”

That is just a very small part of AI.

Lots of AI never accesses the internet.


17 posted on 08/15/2025 10:47:53 AM PDT by TexasGator (The 750 hp Florida Gnat)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

“There is no such thing as AI, there probably never will be any such thing as AI. What is out now it a Large Language Model that was programmed using (stolen) fiction.”

That is just a subset of AI.


18 posted on 08/15/2025 10:49:24 AM PDT by TexasGator (The 750 hp Florida Gnat)
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This is only the beginning of the AI disaster about to happen to us.

Worship at the alter of AI, die at the alter of AI.

19 posted on 08/15/2025 10:50:04 AM PDT by lewislynn (If you think Elon Musk is a genius, you haven't seen his "truck".)
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Did your nitwit phone tell you so?


20 posted on 08/15/2025 10:57:23 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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