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Gerry Spence, Famed Defense Attorney And Wyoming Native, Dies At 96
Cowboy State Daily ^ | August 14, 2025 | Clair McFarland

Posted on 08/14/2025 11:04:09 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: ridesthemiles

The fact is that it happened at McDonald’s - who had received hundreds of prior complaints of burns.


21 posted on 08/14/2025 12:39:19 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: xp38

Lawyers are at their very best, morally neutral. Their purported mission to find the truth is fiction.

I apologize if I have offended the good lawyers; either of them.


22 posted on 08/14/2025 12:51:05 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Dr. Sivana

Are you a coffee drinker? hot coffee is hot. Many drink above 133 degrees. People like FRESH coffee, and many are en route to a job where they will drink it half an hour later. hundreds got scalded? Many thousands will swap coffee vendors if the coffee isn’t hot and fresh. They also know NOT to wedge the cup between the thighs!

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There is a design flaw in coffee cups that are produced cheaply and are throw aways. The lid, if not fastened securely, will allow the cup to collapse. I have worn a couple cups for this reason, recently. I try to always bring my own no spill cup for this reason.


23 posted on 08/14/2025 12:55:58 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: The_Media_never_lie

A lawyer is pretty useful when you need one.


24 posted on 08/14/2025 12:59:26 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Jamestown1630

From Co-Pilot AI:

Yes, in the infamous McDonald’s coffee spill case—Liebeck v. McDonald’s Restaurants—Stella Liebeck placed the cup of coffee between her legs while seated in a parked car. She was trying to add cream and sugar when the coffee spilled.


25 posted on 08/14/2025 1:12:06 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye." (John 2:5))
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To: nwrep

Yeah, as I recall, he was a popular guest on the news shows during the Clinton impeachment. The folksy manner came across well for a few times, then not so much.


26 posted on 08/14/2025 1:15:14 PM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: Dr. Sivana

As I wrote, she could have been severely burned whether she’d handled it that way or otherwise. The issue was the temperature of the coffee.


27 posted on 08/14/2025 1:19:43 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Jamestown1630

She would not have been burned if she had not improperly opened the cup. If the coffee iis too hot, you can wait for it to coold down. Early you claimed one could be scalded at 133 degrees. A well done hamburger is 160 degrees. Should places wait for the hamburgers to cool down with the coffee?

The case may have been decided the way it was because the coffee was hot. The public’s sensibilities were widely offended because jot coffee is supposed to be hot.


28 posted on 08/14/2025 2:03:21 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye." (John 2:5))
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To: Dr. Sivana

The ‘public’ was not on the jury.


29 posted on 08/14/2025 2:16:01 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Red Badger
I guess buckskin is a preservative.


30 posted on 08/14/2025 2:21:01 PM PDT by x
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To: Red Badger

Vaguely remember him commenting on Ruby Ridge, he was pretty good; after he became a legend, his pony broke out from under him


31 posted on 08/14/2025 2:44:06 PM PDT by sopo
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To: Jamestown1630
The ‘public’ was not on the jury.

Correct. The jury made a bad decision. The public's umbrage is a reflection of that. The public knew the coffee was hot.
32 posted on 08/14/2025 2:55:36 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye." (John 2:5))
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To: Dr. Sivana

The jury was privy to all the evidence and facts; and the news stories that went all over the world did not include those.

We will have to agree to disagree about this.


33 posted on 08/14/2025 3:40:43 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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