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Posted on 08/10/2025 3:39:29 PM PDT by Mariner
Not for the first time, European capitals are gripped with apprehension that Russian President Vladimir Putin will surgically divide the transatlantic alliance as well as get everything he wants in Ukraine.
Ahead of the suddenly announced summit in Alaska on Friday between Putin and US President Donald Trump, one European diplomat, who declined to be named as they were not authorized to speak on the record, told CNN: “We are at risk of being a footnote in history.”
In part, European fears are down to just how little is known about what the Kremlin has proposed in order to halt the fighting in Ukraine. Putin has given no details. US envoy Steve Witkoff said nothing after his meeting with the Russian leader last Wednesday.
Trump himself said after Witkoff left Moscow: “It’s very complicated. We’re going to get some back, we’re going to get some switched. There will be some swapping of territories, to the betterment of both.”
The Europeans fear “the betterment of both” is a very unlikely outcome. There is zero indication that Putin has shifted an inch on his maximalist demands – either territorially or in terms of Ukraine remaining a punching bag for Russia without any security guarantees and with limits on the size and capabilities of its military.
“There is no sense in Paris, Berlin or London that seizing someone else’s territory matters to this US administration, and the (Europeans) find that deeply disturbing,” said the diplomat.
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The strong do what they can, the weak suffer what they must.
As for territorial integrity, when US interests are at stake the US is sure to do whatever is necessary to protect them. However, with NO interests at stake in Ukraine, nor the majority of Europe, we should take the day off.
There are consequences for their leftist, failed prophecies.
Oh boo hoo to the Euro Trash. They could have chosen to be part of the solution to the problem but instead they choose to be part of the problem
Did it to yourselves, pompous idiots.
Good news: In future decades Europe will be back.
Bad news: Their new name will be Ottoman Empire 2.0.
Bad news: Their new name will be Ottoman Empire 2.0.
Yep. And that’s why ultimately Turkey is the bigger threat than Russia. Nobody wants to be occupied by Russia, but plenty of Muslims would welcome the Turks.
“Bad news: Their new name will be Ottoman Empire 2.0.”
Or perhaps Eurostan.
Muslim migration into UK, France, Germany, et al. is already making, and will increasingly continue to make, Europe a footnote in history
They werent terribly upset about Kosovo, were they?
Didnt there used to be a place called Yugoslavia before it broke into multiple nations?
And…..colonial empires, WW 1 and WW2 have guaranteed Europe a place in World History
Europe will always be there for us, when she needs us.
Let’s see.
8 peace deals.
Lawfared prosecuted for doing business ethically.
Not in the Epstein files in a criminally probable manner.
Will be President for America’s 250th birthday.
Survived an assassination attempt, twice.
Fixing immigration and education.
Driving liberals nuts.
They have historically chosen Russophobia over the Ottoman empire…..which somehow they never saw as “expansionist”
Purty much sealed it when they tried to be the united states of europe. No workee! Used to be fun back in the 60’s.
And I’m enjoying it.
I think that the Ukrainians themselves will have something to say about this. The Russian fanboys should not count their chickens before the eggs are hatched.
What’s REALLY going to make them a footnote of history is their anemic birth rate.
Babies don’t get created in the rectums of men (or women, for that matter), and when babies do miraculously get created (in the wombs of women), far too many get aborted.
They’ll be lucky if there that unless they come to the senses and save themselves.
“I think that the Ukrainians themselves will have something to say about this.”
They may believe some bold, spectacular act will blow up any deal the US and Russia reach.
However, the bolder and more spectacular it is, the greater force to seal the deal.
Because, in essence it’s not about Ukraine.
There is no deal unless Ukraine is onboard. If you have not figured it out yet, Ukraine is fighting for their existence and will fight even without the US. Anything else is just wishful thinking.
If the deal is "reasonable", they'll take the deal. More than anything, they want the war to end.
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