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In a first, Orthodox rabbinical school ordains an out gay rabbi
Forward ^ | August 4, 2025 | Louis Keene

Posted on 08/04/2025 2:15:19 PM PDT by Salman

The leading liberal Orthodox rabbinical school quietly ordained an out gay rabbi this summer, marking a first for an Orthodox Jewish institution in the U.S.

Yeshivat Chovevei Torah, an all-male seminary in Riverdale, New York, ordained Rabbi Tadhg Cleary in a June 12 ceremony alongside three other graduates.

Cleary’s ordination, or semicha, came six years after YCT’s controversial refusal to ordain a different gay student whose public wedding engagement went viral. The same rosh yeshiva (head of school) who made that decision, Rabbi Dov Linzer, gave final approval to Cleary’s admission into the program and conferred his ordination, the significance of which has not been previously reported.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
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1 posted on 08/04/2025 2:15:19 PM PDT by Salman
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To: Salman

This is the last thing the Jews need during war. Now’s a time for them to get closer to God.


2 posted on 08/04/2025 2:17:36 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Salman

<< liberal Orthodox >>

Oxymoron alert.


3 posted on 08/04/2025 2:18:26 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Salman

Orthodox rabbinical school? Not anymore.


4 posted on 08/04/2025 2:20:09 PM PDT by mbrfl
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Sadly.


5 posted on 08/04/2025 2:23:19 PM PDT by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: Salman

Huh? This is not biblical.


6 posted on 08/04/2025 2:27:06 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Salman
"liberal Orthodox"

i thought 'orthodox' meant 'not liberal'
7 posted on 08/04/2025 2:27:52 PM PDT by wafflehouse ("there was a third possibility that we hadn't even counted upon" -Alice's Restaurant Massacree)
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To: mbrfl
I know rabbis aren't assigned to congregations as it might be priests in the Catholic Church or one of the more hierarchical Protestant denominations.

So to me the question is who will hire him for a rabbinical gig? He might be looking for something other than an Orthodox (?) pulpit. Perhaps an academic or administrative career at a Jewish institution?

8 posted on 08/04/2025 2:28:05 PM PDT by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along.)
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To: Salman

Next year, in Greenwich Village.


9 posted on 08/04/2025 2:28:53 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Salman
From the school's site -- "YCT serves as the spiritual home for an open and inclusive Orthodoxy" -- so, yeah, Democrats in New York. Some are costumed one way, and others another way, but "open and inclusive" begins their "scripture."

From The Forward article -- "The school enrolled just one student in the 2024-25 school year and three the year prior." A demographic "read" to this says "failing." Ditto with all the "open and inclusive" churches of various flavors, all of them queer.

10 posted on 08/04/2025 2:29:33 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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>>”I know rabbis aren’t assigned to congregations as it might be priests in the Catholic Church or one of the more hierarchical Protestant denominations.”

That’s true. But they’re essentially accredited by the rabbinical schools. Hopefully Orthodox congregations will no longer view this school as qualified to accredit Orthodox rabbis.


11 posted on 08/04/2025 2:36:15 PM PDT by mbrfl
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Liberal Orthodox. . . is that like a Ford Pontiac?


12 posted on 08/04/2025 2:38:44 PM PDT by arthurus (| covfefe | qp)
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To: Salman

Not my circus, not my rebbes.


13 posted on 08/04/2025 2:45:34 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: Salman

“Liberal Orthodox” is like “military intelligence”


14 posted on 08/04/2025 2:46:43 PM PDT by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Trump & Vance, 2024! (Formerly) Goldwater & Thomas Sowell )
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To: ConservativeMind

At all.


15 posted on 08/04/2025 2:49:41 PM PDT by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: Salman

https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/uncategorized/5269/yeshivat-chovevei-torah-is-it-orthodox.html

...Rav Mordechai Gifter, zt”l, the Telzer Rosh Yeshiva, would often say that the word “Orthodox” is a Greek term that really has no meaning to us. He always felt more comfortable describing Torah-observant Jews as Torah Jews.

Nevertheless, the term “Orthodox” has come to connote Jews who are Torah-observant according to the accepted norms of the Shulchan Aruch and its interpretation by the great poskim, halachic decisors, throughout the generations.

Over the past years, there has been an emerging threat to Orthodox Judaism that has been gaining power and momentum. It is a “Yeshiva” that professes to be “Orthodox” but, in fact, deviates from normative Orthodox thought, halacha and practice as accepted by Rabbonim and Poskim from across the spectrum of Orthodoxy...


16 posted on 08/04/2025 2:54:26 PM PDT by jjotto ("...saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob, And I hated Esau...")
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To: wafflehouse

“liberal Orthodox”

You forgot the Y after the X. It’s liberal orthodoxy. Give it 3 years and the Rabbi with be screaming for a Palestinian state.


17 posted on 08/04/2025 2:56:03 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (TDS much?)
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To: chajin

So you came here just to say that you don’t care? Thank you for that. I’m sure we we all wondering about that.


18 posted on 08/04/2025 3:01:36 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: Salman

“Those guys are fags!” Jeff Spicoli


19 posted on 08/04/2025 3:01:36 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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Tadhg Cleary is a very Irish-sounding name. A druid?


20 posted on 08/04/2025 3:16:28 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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