Posted on 07/22/2025 9:29:57 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods
Ukraine’s official military casualty figures in the war with Russia may be vastly understated, according to a report published by the French newspaper Le Monde on Monday. Russia’s death toll is much higher, but official figures show the Kremlin’s voluntary recruitment drive is replenishing the ranks faster than its soldiers are being killed.
Death tolls in the four-year old war are state secrets on both sides of the conflict and analysts have been reduced to using proxies to estimate the true toll and official estimates from Defence Ministries are almost certainly massaged up or down. However, even these estimates are stark.
Since the start of the conflict over three years ago a total of 46,000 Ukrainian soldiers have been killed and another 380,000 wounded, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy told CBS News in February.
“The real death toll is likely much higher,” Le Monde reported based on Ukraine’s efforts to build military cemeteries. The state has two new national military memorial projects under construction in Kyiv and Lviv, as graveyards for fallen Ukrainian soldiers are nearing capacity. “Construction projects rising across Ukraine say more about the scale of the slaughter than statistics ever could,” Le Monde said, in comments widely shared in Russian media.
Ukraine’s manpower shortage
While the actual numbers remain cloaked in confusion, it is very clear that Ukraine is suffering from an acute manpower shortage, while Russia is not. No men aged 18 to 60 have been allowed to leave the country since February 2022 without special permission.
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Tell that to Putin so he'll end the war.
There's that damn patriarchy again, given MEN all the advantages and control over women!
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The Ukes have been lying about their death tolls for a long time now. Probably because of funding you have to appear winners.
Perhaps Zelensky is looking to get the pick of the ‘chicks’.
Lots of single, lonely women in Russia and Ukraine.
I see only Ukrainian prostitutes advertising in Florida. Don’t see any Russians. May be because Ukraine women get admitted in USA but not Russians
I wonder how many Americans (men of culture) could tell the difference? :)
There is also a phenomena, whereby Russians lie about being Ukrainians, to not face the guilt over what Russia has done, and benefit from the sympathy for Ukrainians.
Nemo tenetur seipsum accusare
“Tell that to Putin so he’ll end the war.”
He knows. The country is with him so far, he is getting 30,000 volunteers a month and taking the best 20,000. The Russian army is growing every month.
Ukraine has more deserters per month than new soldiers added. The amazing Ukrainian troops are tough and brave, they haven’t been rotated for rest in many months. They can’t be spared or the line would collapse. NATO is to blame for this debacle of a war, not Ukraine, which has been used and abused by Europe. When is Europe going to send some troops to help out?
My own data: A total of 85 to 86 k Ukrainian soldiers killed; and wounded, somewhere around 400 k.
Russia: A few k more (than Ukraine figures) killed; wounded, somewhere around 500 k.
Most Ukraine killed, because of Russian artillery and other bombardment.
Ukraine medical support is better. Russians routinely bombard Ukraine medical support.
Russia has a significant edge, using bombardment . . . and I currently believe that the war will continue until Putin (and the Moscow Club) decide to stop bombardment.
I suspect, that the Russians would like to be close enough to Kyiv/Kiev, to bombard by artillery, so Ukraine remains in an immediate Russian shadow, always under pressure to comply. While Russia stays out of Kyiv/Kiev and lets the Ukrainians simmer - never free from the neo-Soviet grip.
Their bio tells about them on social media. Their photos are explicit so it is obvious they are looking for clients.
“Don’t see any Russians.”
Check these listing!
There are youtube travel vloggers. They move from country to country and often don’t upload content until they are gone from either Ukraine or Russia.
The correct way to watch that content is turn off audio. And ignore what the vlogger is presenting. It’s an extra layer of protection against propaganda from either direction.
Here is what I have seen:
In grocery stores, very well stocked in both Moscow and Kiev, I have seen no women dressed in black. In either city. Whatever death totals there are, perhaps are not being communicated to family.
Frankly, both cities look calm, modern, sophisticated. The missile attacks are at night and since the videos are from daytime that may explain it. Regardless, hyped 100s of drones attacking blah blah . . . there is no sign of it in day-to-day life. The cities and traffic look 21st century normal.
The number of military aged men in the vids, in the background behind the vlogger . . . there are more seen in Moscow than Kiev. They are rare in the Kiev vids. There are many in Moscow.
Moscow particularly . . . videos of major football/soccer events. Stadium full. Excited fans. I have seen no equivalent from Kiev. May align with scarcity of military age men.
Thanks for the input. If your figures are in the ballpark Russia is doing better than I thought.
Earlier this month Russia and Ukraine exchanged the bodies of their dead. The Russians turned over 1,000 dead Ukrainian soldiers and received 19 dead Russians in return — a ratio of over 50-to-1. An earlier exchange was similarly lopsided.
Not a valid measure. Russia is advancing. Corpses found will be Ukraine corpses. Russian corpses will be much more rare for Ukraine to have since Ukraine is in retreat with no wherewithal to gather bodies, of either side.
“Voluntary” recruitment drive. I wonder if his North Korean cannon fodder realize that they are free to leave whenever they want.
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