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Ukraine to receive long-range systems via joint manufacturing initiatives soon — Merz
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| 20 July 25
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Posted on 07/21/2025 7:14:50 AM PDT by delta7
The German chancellor also expressed hope that "the American government, together with the US Congress, will make the decisions that Congress has been preparing for several weeks"
LONDON, July 17. /TASS/. Kiev will soon receive long-range systems, including through joint manufacturing initiatives, German Chancellor Friedrich Merz said at a joint press conference with British Prime Minister Keir Starmer.
"Of course, we discussed military support for Ukraine in detail. And it's not just about air defense, but also about Ukraine's ability to defend itself better, even with long-range systems. We call it long-range fire. Ukraine will soon receive further large-scale support in this direction. Including through the industrial cooperation that we have concluded with Ukraine," he said, but declined to elaborate.
"However, in the coming weeks and months, Ukraine will receive much more substantial support through such systems. I really hope that the American government, together with the US Congress, will make the decisions that Congress has been preparing for several weeks," Merz added, indicating that he is in close contact with several senators who have prepared this. "And we really hope that this will then lead to an appropriate decision by the American government."
Earlier, Merz and Starmer signed a treaty on friendship and cooperation. The British government said that under the deal London and Berlin, in part, will develop new missiles with a range of more than 2,000 kilometers in the next decade. They will also strengthen cooperation in combating illegal migration.
On July 12, head of the working group on the coordination of assistance to Ukraine at the German Defense Ministry Major General Christian Freuding said that Ukraine could receive the first long-range systems as part of the German-Ukrainian project by the end of July. Vladimir Zelensky signed an agreement on the production of long-range weapons in Ukraine during his visit to Berlin on May 28. In mid-June, German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius and Zelensky in Kiev confirmed that Germany and Ukraine intend to start joint production of long-range combat systems, including drones and cruise missiles.
Germany is the second largest supplier of weapons to Ukraine after the United States: since the beginning of the conflict in Ukraine, it has provided Kiev with various kinds of assistance worth more than 40 billion euros. Russia has repeatedly noted that pumping up the Kiev regime with weapons only leads to a prolongation of the conflict.
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For the doubting Thomas’s, plenty written in German media about this, and the people are very unhappy about being drug into another war.
I guess Germany will have to learn the hard with their war on Russia, again.Fools.
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posted on
07/21/2025 7:14:50 AM PDT
by
delta7
To: delta7
Do we still have old obsolete systems of missiles in storage that could be refurbished and sent to the Ukes to kill and maim invading Russians? In large numbers?
Like the old Honest John, Shrike, Pershing, Davy Crocketts, etc?
To: delta7
You can bet BlackRock, Vanguard, or State Street has their hands in this pie...
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posted on
07/21/2025 7:40:32 AM PDT
by
Openurmind
(AI - An Illusion for Aptitude Intrusion to Alter Intellect. )
To: delta7
Russia has repeatedly noted that pumping up the Kiev regime with weapons only leads to a prolongation of the conflict.
IOW, Russia is telling Germany and the Uk, to stop the aid to Ukraine, which is preventing Russia from taking Ukraine. "Ukraine is MINE, so stop it!", said Putin.
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posted on
07/21/2025 7:41:50 AM PDT
by
adorno
( )
To: adorno
Meanwhile, as time goes by, Putin is losing valuable industrial military assets and air traffic is seriously disrupted
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posted on
07/21/2025 7:48:31 AM PDT
by
bert
( (KE. NP. +12) Where is ZORRO when California so desperately needs him?)
To: delta7
For the doubting Thomas’s, plenty written in German media about this, and the people are very unhappy about being drug into another war.
I guess you haven't heard about the Russian people also being very unhappy about the war against it's Ukraine neighbor.
I guess Germany will have to learn the hard with their war on Russia, again.Fools.
No more a fool than Russia with it's ill-advised war on Ukraine, which is devastating the Russia economy and killing way over a million Russians. Putin is the monster who caused all the devastation in both countries. Why not go after him and not Germany, which is only trying to help its innocent neighbor. Vilifying Germany is like the vilification by democrats of Trump who's only trying to keep the country safe from the invading and dangerous illegal aliens
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posted on
07/21/2025 7:48:53 AM PDT
by
adorno
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To: adorno
https://ua.news-pravda.com/en/world/2025/07/09/58839.html
“The scale of desertion in the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine continues to remain at a high level, writes Ukrainian journalist Vladimir Boyko.
According to Boyko, in the first half of 2025, 107,672 new criminal cases were opened for unauthorized abandonment of a unit and desertion, which gives 16-20 thousand officially registered cases per month.
In total, 230,804 such criminal cases have been opened since the beginning of hostilities. Thus, the number of cases filed in 2025 is almost half of all cases of desertions in the Armed Forces of Ukraine in 3.5 years.
“The real picture is much worse, because until October 2024, the GBR systematically refused to provide information to the ERDR about the facts of unauthorized abandonment of a unit or place of service, and the commanders of military units even had to appeal the investigators’ inaction in court,” the journalist writes.
Boyko also writes that out of more than 100,000 cases, only a little more than 3,500 defendants were officially charged, while only a little more than 1,000 people went to court. As a result, criminal cases for murder and desertion are simply not investigated because of their huge number.
“As a result, there is no infantry in the Armed Forces of Ukraine today. At all. The infantry is either on the run, in hospitals, or in a cemetery,” Boyko writes.”
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Of course, the corrupted, broke Ukie gov can be up to no good…
“ Spectator: Since 2022, Ukraine has officially opened about 230,804 criminal cases under the article “Desertion”
In total, more soldiers have deserted from the Ukrainian Armed Forces than are listed in the British, French and German armies combined.”
It is probable that most of these men are dead and by listing them as deserters Z Regime waives the compensation claims from their families.….”
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posted on
07/21/2025 7:50:26 AM PDT
by
delta7
To: bert
Meanwhile, as time goes by, Putin is losing valuable industrial military assets and air traffic is seriously disrupted
and the Russia economy is in shambles from the war, and the Russian people are increasingly moving into dire poverty.
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posted on
07/21/2025 7:53:35 AM PDT
by
adorno
( )
To: delta7
This is just the latest iteration of the constant cycle of European war, power dynamics and shifting national rivalries that we have seen on the Continet for the last 500 years.
There is nothing new under the sun.
The EU (and particularly the rump British Empire) are trying like hell to drag the USA into their conflict, once again.
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posted on
07/21/2025 8:06:16 AM PDT
by
PGR88
To: delta7
Russia is a horrible road team. Ukraine, Afghanistan, Finland
Great home team, although Russia always falls way behind at half time and is still trailing after 3 quarters, but always stages a huge rally to win in the 4th quarter.
To: delta7
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posted on
07/21/2025 8:16:03 AM PDT
by
TexasGator
(/I1.here is no Sharknado system)
To: delta7
Sounds like escalation not bringing an end to this war.
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posted on
07/21/2025 8:26:31 AM PDT
by
McGruff
To: delta7
“I guess Germany will have to learn the hard with their war on Russia, again.Fools.”
Putin is sad. Involved in another multi-year war diving Russia broke.
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posted on
07/21/2025 8:35:38 AM PDT
by
TexasGator
(/I1.here is no Sharknado system)
To: delta7
“The scale of desertion in the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine continues to remain at a high level, writes Ukrainian journalist Vladimir Boyko.
From PRAVDA Ukraine. Yeah, not believable at all. Pravda.ru, RUSSIAN. Find something that's not pro-Russian.
According to Boyko, in the first half of 2025, 107,672 new criminal cases were opened for unauthorized abandonment of a unit and desertion, which gives 16-20 thousand officially registered cases per month.
If the initiator of the report is Russian, you can't go on to quote anything from him or it. If it's heavily biased, nothing else coming from it can be believed. If it's not independently verifiable, it must be tossed. Reagan once said, 'trust but verify'. In Pravda's case, it can't be trusted nor verified. They can be trusted to make things up, however, just like CNN and MSNBC and the DNC.
In total, 230,804 such criminal cases have been opened since the beginning of hostilities. Thus, the number of cases filed in 2025 is almost half of all cases of desertions in the Armed Forces of Ukraine in 3.5 years.
Pravda. Remember that. One of Putin's favorite media.
“The real picture is much worse, because until October 2024, the GBR systematically refused to provide information to the ERDR about the facts of unauthorized abandonment of a unit or place of service, and the commanders of military units even had to appeal the investigators’ inaction in court,” the journalist writes.
Remember, it's Pravda. And also remember that with Russia, no figures can actually be collected about the Russian losses and abandonment and surrenders and AWOLs and about those feeling the country to avoid being conscripted and sent to war.
Yet, reports are that with Russian forces, the figures are at least twice as bad or worse. This is a war that no Russian troop wants to be engaged in.
Boyko also writes that out of more than 100,000 cases, only a little more than 3,500 defendants were officially charged, while only a little more than 1,000 people went to court. As a result, criminal cases for murder and desertion are simply not investigated because of their huge number.
A whole bunch ob baloney.
When the numbers are made up or are just junk, the investigations would not have reached a credible number. If the junk leads to very few investigations, you know the original It was 'so convenient' to allege a huge number of case, and then end up with a miniscule number of investigations. IOW, make it sound like a very huge problem and then get closer to the real facts. IOW, junk reporting. But of course, it's from Pravda.
“As a result, there is no infantry in the Armed Forces of Ukraine today. At all. The infantry is either on the run, in hospitals, or in a cemetery,” Boyko writes.”
Haven't you noticed that the report is pure junk? Grow a brain already!
Ground is held by troops and if there aren't any troops to hold the ground, Russia would've marched into all of Ukraine by now.
Missiles and drones and artillery and fighter jets, do hot hold ground. Russia has some 200,000 always on the ground in eastern Ukraine, with no possibility of ever capturing more of Ukraine, after the initial 20%. Somebody is there to stop the Russian troops from moving west. Guess it must be the ghosts of all the dead Ukrainian soldiers.
Come on, dude. Use some common sense. Pravda is not where common sense cores from. Your favorite dude in Pravda is making it all up.
Of course, the corrupted, broke Ukie gov can be up to no good…
It's the government that the Ukrainian people voted into power, so by extension, the entire Ukraine population is corrupt. See how nutty you sound???
“ Spectator: Since 2022, Ukraine has officially opened about 230,804 criminal cases under the article “Desertion” In total, more soldiers have deserted from the Ukrainian Armed Forces than are listed in the British, French and German armies combined.”
Since there is no real way to arrive at those figures, it's just junk reporting.
Then there's this:
Estimates suggest that hundreds of thousands, potentially even a million or more, of military-aged Russians have fled the country to avoid being drafted to fight in Ukraine. Some reports from independent Russian media indicate that as many as 700,000 may have left in the first few weeks following the "partial mobilization" announcement in September 2022. Other estimates suggest a lower figure, but still in the hundreds of thousands.
Other reports estimate the true number is between 2 and 3 million fleeing Russia in order to avoid serving in Ukraine. And many other reports say that hundreds of thousands military age men have 'suffered' self-inflicted minor injuries in order to be judged unable to serve.
The Russian people do not support this war and if those that are already serving in Ukraine had a choice,they would leave in droves and have Russia give up the fight.
It is probable that most of these men are dead
Aren't you able to tell that, that's pure guesswork and not reporting the facts??? Come on, dude, get your brain back into reality.
and by listing them as deserters Z Regime waives the compensation claims from their families.….”
If the ORIGINAL premise is proven false or just pure junk, everything that follows is even worse junk.
Find credible sources for your bias, and perhaps then, even your bias can have come credibility.
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posted on
07/21/2025 9:02:15 AM PDT
by
adorno
( )
To: delta7
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posted on
07/21/2025 9:03:14 AM PDT
by
kiryandil
(No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
To: delta7
zeepers will be denying that the Russian attrition of the Ukrainian army is happening till the last Ukie soldier is dead.
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posted on
07/21/2025 9:05:23 AM PDT
by
kiryandil
(No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
To: delta7
Just look at the book-length post the buffoon made in post #14.
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posted on
07/21/2025 9:06:58 AM PDT
by
kiryandil
(No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
To: kiryandil
zeepers will be denying that the Russian attrition of the Ukrainian army is happening till the last Ukie soldier is dead.
Putinistas are in even bigger denial that the Russians can't win the war and are losing men like crazy. Russia will have to grow soldiers from trees or grass. The Ukraine soil will be the richest on earth, with Russian soldiers' bodies making the soil rich in nutrients.
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posted on
07/21/2025 9:43:53 AM PDT
by
adorno
( )
To: kiryandil
Just look at the book-length post the buffoon made in post #14.
Nobody more buffoonish than those that continue to support Putin and his war that he can't win. And now, even Trump knows the truth about Putin and is sending aid to Zelensky/Ukraine. Guess Trump is a buffoon too.
But did you notice that most of the content in that post #14 if quoting the original buffoon who I responded to? The length of my post #14 was dictated by the nonsense posted by your buffoon boyfriend.
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posted on
07/21/2025 9:51:24 AM PDT
by
adorno
( )
To: All
I don’t know where these imagined numbers come from. They are not likely impartial.
I prefer to scan youtube. Looking behind the presenter and with sound off. I usually concentrate on Russia because there are so many claims of populace hating the Russian govt and opposing policy.
Here is a vlogger who is apparently from Ukraine, but she travels the world . . . for the viewcounts and to fund her life.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy4yqXf5JqE This is some sort of outdoor market in Ukraine. I don’t see any horrible scarcity, but there are very few military aged men. No women dressed in black for the alleged huge casualty counts. .
And here is the same in Russia, I would suggest far more military aged men, and no women dressed in black.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIH09ZoQPJw&t=4s some kind of barbecue fest
These look like there is no war on, either place.
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posted on
07/21/2025 10:15:19 AM PDT
by
Owen
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