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Former NATO commander: Sending Ukraine offensive weapons ‘could move Putin to the negotiating table’
The Hill ^ | 07/14/25 | Sarah Fortinsky

Posted on 07/14/2025 5:33:30 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

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To: backpacker_c

You are not well. I feel bad for you. Have for years. Your mind is absolutely gone.


41 posted on 07/14/2025 6:53:26 PM PDT by thefactor
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To: backpacker_c

stupid remarks why would anyone want to weaken the United States.

Except a Russia worshipper.


42 posted on 07/14/2025 6:57:07 PM PDT by Williams (Thank God for the election of President Trump!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Putin has been clear that certain things are non-negotiable. The West can’t believe him because it thinks everything is negotiable. So Trump is flustered, and maybe he should just take Putin at his word.


43 posted on 07/14/2025 6:57:38 PM PDT by BEJ
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To: BobL
I don’t disagree.
I’m long in ITA (iShares U.S. Aerospace & Defense ETF)

IMG-8590 IMG-8591

44 posted on 07/14/2025 7:01:34 PM PDT by CapandBall
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To: CapandBall

Interesting, perhaps that’s what drives the warmongers. Can’t blame you for cashing-in though - wish I thought of it!


45 posted on 07/14/2025 7:07:12 PM PDT by BobL
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To: jimwatx
Yeah go ahead and keep playing and then don’t act surprised when Russia resorts to tactical nukes.

Russia claims they won't have to use nukes because the Oreshnik missiles can be just as effective as tactical nukes. They are currently rolling off the assembly lines in a mass production effort. Looks like we insist on learning a lesson the hard way.

46 posted on 07/14/2025 7:23:00 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: MinorityRepublican

I think we are going to find out that Trump will be much better at inflicting economic pain on Russia than Biden/Autopen. Also, military tactics may experience a change for the better as well.


47 posted on 07/14/2025 7:28:06 PM PDT by McCarthysGhost
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To: Nextrush

“Russia ends up winning Napoleon and Hitler tried but failed I guess our current leaders follow in those footsteps thinking they are better than those two guys.

But alas we are all such wicked sinners.”
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Different circumstances entirely. In your examples, Napoleon and Hitler were both invaders of Russia. In the case of Hitler, the USSR would have been overrun by Germany had not the USA been the “arsenal of Democracy” and supported the Soviet forces with aircraft, naval vessels, tanks, and lots of ammunition and food until the USSR could get its own manufacturing running again in secure areas.

Russia invaded Ukraine after signing a treaty with that nation that it would not do so. That’s the reality.


48 posted on 07/14/2025 7:51:42 PM PDT by Bob Wills is still the king
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To: TexasGator

Their debt to GDP ratio is around 21%. Ours is around 124%.

Who’s broke?


49 posted on 07/14/2025 8:04:31 PM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2025... RETURN OF THE JEDI….There’s really not much to)
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To: MinorityRepublican

“Secondary sanctions against China and India for buying Russian oil from their shadow fleet.”

Care to guess where our medications are made?


50 posted on 07/14/2025 8:09:14 PM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2025... RETURN OF THE JEDI….There’s really not much to)
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To: backpacker_c

“because they want to weaken and neuter the U.S., and don’t care if the U.S. gets in WWIII with russia...”

Maybe the first part explains why Zelensky campaigned for Harris. The second part has been their goal all along.


51 posted on 07/14/2025 8:19:52 PM PDT by rxh4n1
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To: MinorityRepublican
James George Stavridis is a retired United States Navy admiral and vice chair, global affairs, and a managing director-partner of The Carlyle Group, a global investment firm, and chair of the board of trustees of the Rockefeller Foundation. Stavridis serves as senior military analyst for CNN. He is also chair emeritus of the board of directors of the United States Naval Institute and a senior fellow at the Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory.

Interesting?

Is he the one bypassing President Trump with our Ukraine involvement?

52 posted on 07/14/2025 8:33:05 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

DJT is out of his league, being advised/influenced by RINOs and ds who want a war.

It could also lead to the latter.

I hope that he proves me wrong, but my other hand is still full. So this is deeply troubling to some of us, myself in particular.


53 posted on 07/14/2025 9:02:03 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -')
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To: Kleon

Indeed.


54 posted on 07/14/2025 9:02:48 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -')
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To: MinorityRepublican

The British, Brussels, DC Atlanticists and Zelensky ALL want and need to drag Trump into this war, and make it “Trump’s war” (and the USA’s war)

Trump’s already at the edge of being permanently tarred.


55 posted on 07/14/2025 9:22:51 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: tlozo; Nextrush
Stop with the Russian propaganda. Ukraines Parliament voted to toss out a would be Putin-like dictator.

Yeah, after the Maidan Coup plotters threatened and BANNED the majority "Party of the Regions" political party, which supported Yanukovich.

Is "Lozo" Ukrainian for "loser?" Your BS is so tiresome.

56 posted on 07/14/2025 9:25:44 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Karl Spooner

“Looks like we insist on learning a lesson the hard way.”
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You’d think after all these useless and expensive wars that accomplished nothing and put us on the verge of bankruptcy that people would wise up. The deep state both here and in Europe want war with Russia. They have this delusional notion that we can win a war against them and then break up Russia into 5 states and grab their natural resources in the process. I was counting on Trump to put the kibosh on that plan but lately he’s starting to wobble on some things.


57 posted on 07/14/2025 10:24:25 PM PDT by jimwatx
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To: Kazan
So you're now calling Trump an "imbecile" and a "moron"?

You need to start supporting Trump and not Putin, amigo.

58 posted on 07/15/2025 3:18:36 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace." --George Washington)
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To: tlozo

Not one time in their history has Russia attacked a country for annexation.....hahahahaha

It has ALWAYS fought wars for the defense of the Rodina. It just believes that in order to “defend” itself...it has to attack and kill everyone that might be a threat...every time...all the time.

If you look back, I’ve stated that Ukraine will be ending up like Korea, Moldova is next to defend it’s Ukrainian flank, as well as the Baltics....in order to defend the poor vulnerable Russians in Kallingrad Oblast... hahahahahaha...

If a dumbass like me can figure it out, I’m sure the geniuses at the State Dept, DOD and 3 letter agencies know this as well...

My suggestion...do what I did a couple of year ago. Buy stock in Palantir, AeroVironment, Northrop Grumman Corporation,NVIDIA Corporation, Lockheed , Kratos,Anduril Industries

or just buy stocks in companies the congress buys... because corporations love wars.


59 posted on 07/15/2025 9:52:31 AM PDT by Dick Vomer ( (2 Timothy 4:7 "deo duce ferro comitantes" <p><b></B><P> <img src="">)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Since Russia was the aggressor and initiated the warfare, any weapons Ukraine uses can properly be called defensive.


60 posted on 07/15/2025 11:05:29 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Finish the damned WALL! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH! )
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